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In Your Opinion: Is Surtr Tier 1

I think he's good, but is he Hec-tier good?

Asked by Ataraxia1 month 1 week ago
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Lol hes way better than fucking Hector. HE HAS 33 RES and can KILL you just by looking at you. If Hector got demoted to tier 2 I wouldnt be surprised.

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I don't think he'll push Hector out of tier 1, Hector can kill better in a fight, but Surtr is tier 1. No question.

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I think he actually will. His C skill and weapon are no joke. Even without his C skill I would consider it but he gains an 8 stat all around advantage over the enemy it's disgusting. And with the weapon you can't even tank him

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Surtr's biggest problem is that he can't combo killing power with survival like L!Hector can with his pseudo-wary+VF combo.
Nor can he keep blasting off glimmers like LA!Hector can.

Surtr's forde is slow and steady fights:
Bait an enemy (or a group)> Debuff + pain the hell out of em > destroy the enemy team with your palls

I'm gonna try out how he works with obstruct.

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-20 HP off of enemies for no reason invalidates that. And if you actually want to kill you can run VF DC no problem and you still get his gross weapon and C skill. He's much more optimized than other armors we've seen before. I think you are confusing that he doesn't have to run his base kit. 59 Atk.

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That's exactly it. He has 180 BST (with one of his two superboons) and as opposed to H!Myrrh and L!Tiki is optimized for an armored unit (I consider low speed as optimized when it comes to armored units) so that his other stats are high as hell. He has all-round amazing bulk and 39 base attack. He doesn't care about not being able to move 2 spaces, because he probably won't die instantly (apart from a Black Luna maybe) and as soon as an enemy dares to come into the 2 space range around him, he will most likely kill that unit the next turn.
He is insane.

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The big problem with VF DC is that Surtr won't be so hard to kill anymore. If something can take a hit and has enough attack power, Surtr will die.

Meanwhile L!Hector can avoid doubles and use VF

Btw, don't forget that the whole reason his weapon + C are so strong, is because anything he baits will be in killing range.
It doesn't have anything to proc on if Surtr kills them, and while that may seem fine; He does open himself up for more damage.
And running DC also means no anti special

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You can also run Special Fighter QR if you want to go for the other gross option. But the thing is he doesn't open himself up any less than Hector does. He can run identical builds with more stats. His Res gap with the debuff/buff from his C skill is massive when compared to Hectors. The stats just show it. And his Attack and Def aren't sacrificed for it either nor is his HP. It all came from speed. He's just disgusting. And that's counting every Hector there is. You want to do the glimmer set? Go ahead the Attack stat is just as high. You want to mirror hectors Aether tank set? Go ahead! I think I prefer him going Special Fighter or Wary because of his weapon, but considering no one can really do THAT much damage to him especially if you aren't defending he's just gross. And I can tank Hector because my Roy has guard, but Surtr will do 20 damage for no reason besides me wanting to pick a tank. Give it a bit of time I'm sure you'll notice it.

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As someone who has used OG Hector and got Surtr I can say that Hector is just garbage compared to Surtr. this guy takes 0 damage from TA reds and kills them in 2 turns at most. He can bait mages and tank them easily with WF and one shot them in return. Sinmara is such a broken weapon. I am surprised how strong the effect is. You can just put him in the middle of the enemy team and he can solo so many maps. Sadly he also powercreeped all slow tanky axe units statlines with his min maxed stats.

Honestly Surtr might just be the best unit in the game. He just doesn't have a clear weakness except for armor slaying weapons and Lilina. Every other matchup is an overkill. its just ridiculous

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I agree that he is probably the best unit in the game. What does he have the Hecotrs don't? His C skill gives him +8/8/8/8 in combat over the enemy, he has -20 damage on units who consider being near him, and 33 Res flat.

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Lol. Everyone is crying about the prospect of facing up against him. Their tears alone let him float up to tier 1 on a floatie

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1. His weapon is f****** dangerous.
2. Insane Defense and Attack and good Res
3. Steady stance 4 adds "Guard" without restrictions
4. His Exclusive C skill is insane and sinergyzes with his weapon and Wary Fighter.

Probably, Surt's nightmare is Hoshidan Summer Micaiah.

For me, Surt is S Tier, but Surt (God) tier in offensive arena and hard content.

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