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Will the Thracia Banner heroes be useful? (Fire Emblem Experts Pls)

So I hear that Leif, Nanna, and Finn are going to be three new heroes in the Thracia banner. However....

I've never touched a Fire Emblem game in my whole life besides FEH, and have no idea who these three characters are. I tried looking online, but I couldn't really fine any good answers to my questions.

1. What type of unit (weapon/move type) do you guys think each of these units will be?
2. Do you think any of them will be particularly strong, or maybe have access to some rare skills currently in circulation?

Thanks!

Asked by Blackdrakon308 months 3 weeks ago
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by assix 8 months 4 weeks ago

Try the Fire Emblem Wiki for a summary.

1) Finn will most likely be a Lance Cavalier, Leif will be a generic sword lord, and Nanna will most likely be a troubadour, unless IS makes her a Sword Cavalry (like Lachesis should have been, smh).

2) We may see some similarities between Finn and Nana, considering that Nanna is the canonical daughter of Finn and Lachesis (IIRC). Leif will most probably have a special skill, considering he is a main lord, and the last main lord we got, Micaiah, had the exclusive Sacrifice. As for skills, I don't really know. Could be based on their Awakening skillsets.

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Leif will be a sword unit for sure and almost certainly infantry, he could be cavalier considering his promotion in Genealogy. But since it's a Thracia not Genealogy banner he'll likely be a infantry sword, with the possibility of introducing the Light Brand sword into the game.

Finn will be a lance cavalier. Most likely with a Brave Lance, maybe they'll give him a unique better version of a brave lance if he's lucky.

Nanna will likely be a staff cavalier. Some might hold out hope they introduce the Earth Sword into the game with her, but considering her mom Lachesis didn't get it I doubt Nanna will get it either. I'd be kinda disappointed honestly if she did, but I have bias toward Lachesis over Nanna.

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Leif - He may be an sword infantry or a sword cavalier I would think. As far as being strong, that's tough since I don't really know Intelligent System's ideas (looks at Odin) but he'll have a LOT of competition considering the obscene amounts of sword units in the game as of this moment.

Nanna - I PRAY she's a flying healer, but I dunno. As far as being strong... she's a healer, so that pretty much says it all (but she will also have access to Pain+ builds, so...)

Finn - Maybe a lance cavalier. Only thing I can think of as far as anything "rare" is Finn's Lance, but that only appeared in Awakening if I recall correctly.

I'm mostly excited for Nanna because of the possibility of a flying healer, but who knows. :P

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Odin didn't need to be good. If people liked him enough to be upset, they'll build him up anyways. Leif needs to be good, considering he's a main lord, and the only really "bad" main lords we have are Roy (this might change soon), Eliwood, and Corrin.
Also, what plausible reason could IS have for making Nanna a flying healer?

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I'm afraid I'm not understanding what your first point is. What do you mean "Odin didn't need to be good"? Are you saying that because he's not a "main character" that it doesn't matter if he's a good unit or a trash unit?

I'm praying that's not what you're saying.

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Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying. He doesn't have to appeal to the masses because he's not a main focus point of his game. IS should focus most of their attention on making the main characters good. Not every unit has to be top tier. Part of the beauty of Heroes is that even the trashiest units can be passable with enough investment, and some people will want to make Odin viable.

You missed a point. Why would Nanna be a flying healer?

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A unit being good is not the same thing as a unit being top tier, I think you're confusing the two as they're completely different. Odin has less attack than Felicia and one more attack than Azama. That's not in any way "passable" considering the amount of investment needed to make him into a mildly usable unit, and that's being generous. A main character shouldn't automatically be "top tier" simply BECAUSE they're main characters, and side characters shouldn't be "trash tier" (which I guess every unit that's not top tier is trash tier in your eyes?) simply because they're side characters.

I like Odin, but the only good stat he has is speed, but that's not really going to do much if his attack is one of the lowest in the game and his defenses aren't even that great to begin with. And, contrary to popular belief, not everyone will build up a unit if, no matter how much investment is put in, will never be a "good unit". If I had spare resources then sure, but I'm F2P so I focus my resources on units I like AND will be "passable" when finished building up.

Also, for Nanna being a flying healer, that's just my hopes and dreams. Eirika was made into a mage cavalier, so anything's possible at this point.

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IS cannot make every unit fantastic. Contrary to what you believe, Odin can be made into an okay unit. I've seen some innovative builds in Arena and Arena Assault (in Tiers 19 and 20, mind you). The point of FEH is to sell the series to newer players, and the main focus should be on the characters who are big story focuses. That doesn't mean all the side characters must be bad, it's just not 100% necessary to make them good. And no, I don't think every character who's not top tier is garbage. Like I said, every single unit in the game can be made viable somehow, YOU just have to be willing to put in the time and effort.

Nanna's not going to be a flying healer, as this is her debut in the game, and IS typically won't use a non-canonical representation.

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Again, a good unit is not the same thing as a fantastic unit. Ayra, Hector, Black Knight, Zelgius, W!Chrom, Nowi - those are fantastic units. Cherche, Klein, F!Corrin, Morgan(s), regular Chrom - those are good units. Units that aren't "oh my god, wtf?!" but are good enough to build and be happy that they'll successfully fulfill the role they are meant to fill.

Odin would need *extreme* amounts of skill inheritance to even be made into a... better unit, and even with said inheritance, he's not that great, but it seems like you've seen quite a lot of good builds for him so I'd love if you'd be able to share what those builds are so I can see them for myself.

"The point of FEH is to sell the series to newer players, and the main focus should be on the characters who are big story focuses."

How would this make any sense though? People that are new to the series wouldn't really know, nor care too much, what units are main characters in their game unless they actually take the time to Google every game in Fire Emblem and read about the characters, and even then main characters are not always interesting and it doesn't build a "bond" (as cheesy as that sounds) between the "NEWER" player and the main character of whatever game they're apart of, so if selling to newer players is the overall goal for FEH, then I don't see how making the main characters (of a series that's been going on since.. how long?) of every game fantastic units.

And yes, I know Intelligent Systems will not make her a flying healer, I said that was a hope of mine, not an absolute "it will be done."

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Odin can be okay with extreme SI, but unfortunately, I didn't really get any screenshots of the builds. If I find one, I'll be sure to give you a shoutout.

When people who are new to the series see an overpowered character, their interest is piqued in said character, and they'll go and search up who they are. I had never played Blazing Blade, but when I heard everyone discussing Hector, I looked up who he was, and did an emulated playthrough of FE7. Since then, Canas has become one of my favorite characters, and I anxiously await his FEH debut (hopefully alongside Nils). So yes, I believe that familiarizing new players with FE was at least one of IS's goals with FEH, and what better way than through main characters? It's been done before with Marth and Roy. Since they're the face characters of their games, they should ideally be the characters made the most powerful.

A flying healer would be a great addition, don't disagree with you there. I was hoping one would come in the Spring banner, but... An alternate Elincia would be a good choice for one.

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by -Le 8 months 4 weeks ago

well these units are from thracia 776. which is the hardest fire emblem to date. and seeing as how they announced these units weeks ago, which is weird, id say these units are gonna be really special. maybe.

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem%3A_Thracia_776
if you want more back story on this game, there ya go.

leif will be a sword unit.
finn will probably be a lance.
nanna will either be colorless or a red sword. might be infantry or horse.
since leif is the last lord to get into heroes, theres a good change hes gonna have something really rare.

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