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Why is Reinhardt not in tier 1?

But brave Lyn is? You can't go two matches in tier 20 without seeing brave lyn/rein, if unanswered they can quickly obliterate you. Most guides advice in how to counter him etc. The meta revolves mostly around him, if you can survive him or not. He can even take out some low res green units, whereas my other units fail to take him out, he is scary, he is fast and hits hard.

" can be countered easily"

Well duh, any unit can be. Can counter an Hector with a triangle adept and armor slayer, doesn't mean Hector deserves tier 2 because of it!

And Rein doesnt exist alone in a team, although the AI is dumb as bricks at least you can pair Rein with a triangle adept red unit to try and counter his counters.

Asked by Nemitri1 year 1 month ago

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My guess is that the difference between Reinhardt and BLyn comes because of BLyn's ability to run a Firesweep Bow + Cancel Affinity, which keeps her from just auto-dying to her counterunits like Reinhardt does.

I don't really know why Hector's still tier 1 though. I've never found that I had any trouble dealing with him as long as I had a decent red sword or mage unit. Even Arvis with his low defense and 33hp can kill him.

It's kind of the same with BIke, where most tier 2-3 non-desperation reds can kill him player phase without too much of an issue.

BLyn and potentially Nowi (I haven't seen enough of her to say) are really the only units that feel like they deserve tier 1

Do we know if they are considering attack or defense units? Armor units are a hell of a lot better when played by a player rather than the AI. Hector might place well because they might not be considering Arena Defense so much as player controlled arena.
Similarly Reinhardt does well when on player team because the enemies don't neccesarily have a check, and you can be smart enough not to attack the check, where as on Arena defense he falters more because everyone puts a reinhardt killer on the team to bait him with.

Kind of wondering the same. Lyndis may have better matchups, since she doesn't suffer from disadvantage of the triangle. On the other hand, it's a lot easier to counter her (basically any Raven tome unit).

A guy mentioned her possible use of Firesweep as well as CA to mitigate said weaknesses, which make a lot of sense.

I still think he's easily Top 1-2 (basically worst or tied with her) since, like you mentioned, he's just really oppressive. He's not only really easy to pick up, use and build, but he's also a legitimate threat in the hands of AI. Fail to rid of him quickly, and he kills your streak. It's especially annoying in somewhat competent Defense Teams where they have his horse buddies Repositioning him to safety (if you don't have someone to kill him on bait) as well as have you cornered with him *and* Lyndis (which pretty much forces you to have a Raven Tome Green unit).

The best counter for reintard and b.Lyn is still DC Sheena by far. It matters not what they do, dead!

Distant counter Sheena might run the risk of getting chipped to death (sacae's blessing negates DC) and if running firesweep bow, well, no sacae needed there, just cancel affinity.

Not at all, sure she wont be able to counterattack, however on her turn b.lyn is dead unless you want to tell me the opponent sends another unit to repo her away. If so, its basically a 2 hero action for a handful of damage. I can live with that.

Tier 1 units represent the most prominent and impactful units in the current metagame: they are among the strongest in the game and the best of their respective roles. Tier 1 units can perform exceptionally well in almost any team with little reliance on external support and have fantastic matchups against the majority of units.

Tier 2 units are among the strongest in the game, but are slightly less impactful than units in Tier 1. These units will have great matchups against many common Arena threats, making them some of the strongest choices for a core Arena team. With an ally or summoner support, and a synergistic team composition, many of these units can be just as powerful as those in Tier 1.

Source: https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/inheritance-tier-list
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I have both units. My Reinhardt is my pride and joy. The moment he was released, I knew I needed to have him. I got one who was low attack and + speed, but I made it work. Now I have a Reinhardt who is +9 and +atk and -res. He's amazing and destroys everything in his path; however, to be as deadly as he is, Reinhardt requires a lot of work. He does need a calvary buff, as well as QP w/ moon bow, and merging. Brave Lyn already has the advantage of Sacae's blessing, as well higher speed, higher res, slightly higher attack, and a special bow that boosts her speed. Brave Lyn can be extremely deadly without merging and without being on a calvary team. Also, her impressive speed allows her to double many units with buffs and avoid being doubled without buffs.

I do think Reinhardt has more potential after putting work into him and extensive merging. Although, the tier list ranking appreciates a more universal type of unit who will have synergy in almost any team.

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Accidentally double posted

It's because there are more Reinhardt counters practically and it's not too difficult to handle him.

Brave Lyn though she's a major bitch and throws a big "fuck you" to your distant counter heroes with her Sacae's blessing.

What? Virtualy any Raven Tome user can counter her. Reinhardt basically narrows you down to the Color, which is green and a lot of them need TA to even take a Quickened Moonbow up the ass. And if you argue Cancel Affinity, than she has to face people with DC.

If you give her 'cancel affinity' and the firesweep bow, then nobody can take her down.