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Why Lancebreaker on Reinhardt ?

Hi all.
I'm the happy owner of a +Atk -Spd Reinhardt since he was released, and I used him basically everywhere since. Obviously he's the Death Blow set, usually with Quick Pulse + Moonbow and at least one Atk boost from Olivia. You already know that he's a monster. BUT I tried using a lot of different B skills and none convinced me.

My favorite is Blue Tomebreaker because with it I can bait Blue Mages on enemy phase and it kinda helps on offense to kill tanky mages on defensive tiles. I tried Wings of Mercy but it's really situational and I just used it a couple of times in offense. Red Tomebreaker is also way too situational but helped in one or two GHB. And Vantage basically sucks.

But I don't really see the use of Lancebreaker, even if it's listed as the best B skill on this site. He kills in player phase every relevant spear user in Arena already (I don't really use merged heroes so I don't encounter monsters like Jagen fully merged in Horse Team), even Effie, even the Pegasus Knights, everyone. And it seems way less useful on defense than Blue Tomebreaker or Wings of Mercy, which can actually give you surprise kills or can bait opposite mages.

So, users of the great Reinhardt, what do you think of this, and what are you using ?

Asked by Kraagenskull1 year 4 months ago

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For tempest/end game pve

Let's him kill all those high res fliers he can't one hit.

There isn't really anything else in the B pool other than Breaker skills that really help Rein. Lancebreaker helps him secure kills against fliers and lance users with 35+ res who otherwise might survive (though they're more commonly seen against the AI than Arena). Also, you kind of alluded to not being high enough in Arena to run into the reason people run Lancebreaker on him, such as cavalry/flier buffed units, armor buffed Effie, etc.

If Blue Tomebreaker wasn't a) an exclusive to a GHB unit everyone had 1-2 copies of and b) wasn't far better suited for the likes of Delthea, there might be more reason to give him it.

I'd say stick with Lancebreaker. WoM is a great skill for defense as it'll often break up deathless runs, but it's better suited to dancers and tanks. Save your B. Tomebreaker for someone like Delthea, Mae, or even Summer Corrin.

(Please ignore this - I was suggesting Cancel Affinity as his B slot but I forgot that he can't inherit it.)

He can't equip it

OK, that's clear. I often don't run in a lot of buffed Lance units, I thought maybe the release of Berkut would change that but nobody is using him anyway.

Also, Lancebreaker has no effect on Effie because of Wary Fighter, or am I wrong ?

(and I've also used a 2nd Blue Tomebreaker on my Delthea and I've still got one F!Robin left)

Correct on Lancebreaker not impacting Wary Fighter, although Reinhardt will get 2 hits for Dire Thunder.

You do occasionally run into an Effie with something other than Wary Fighter (usually DIstant Counter/QR or Vantage in combination). Gwendolyn's another one who can get up into the 90+ effective HP range with armor buffs from the blue pool.

Lancebreaker and Wary Fighter will chancel each other out, so Reinhardt will quad hit Effie, if he reaches the 5 point speed gap.

The real reason Lancebreaker is good on Reinhardt is that he survives one hit from a lancer thanks to his Def. He doesn't need Swordbreaker because of triangle advantage and dies to everything green anyway. But giving him Lancebreaker let's him survive a Sharena or Camus so you can just more easily deploy him in the enemy field. That's it.

Aside from that, Lancebreaker does hold offensive merit against savagely buffed AI Gwendolyn, Effies and Pegasus Knights in Infernal Hero Battles or Tempest Trial. It's just, all B skills are useless on him, Lancebreaker just a tiny little bit less.