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Why does Clair still have such a low score? Only 2/5.

After her new exclusive weapon refinement, she should be considered a powerful cav check. As you all know, red cavs are so popular in this game. Also, those armor mages like LA!Lyn and Normal girl are so annoying that even some powerful units cannot deal with them well. Clair just plays such an important in annihilating them owing to her color and her good res. So, from my point of view, it is unfair for her to get such a low score.

Asked by Tagmata7 months 1 week ago
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There are definitely better Cav checks available in the game, considering Clair still has pretty subpar DEF.

However I do agree that it is a bit odd that Caeda is rated 4/5 but Clair is 2/5 when they have almost the exact same statline and now almost the exact same weapon. It's true that Clair struggles most against green armors which are some of the most powerful in that type (Grima, Hector, H!Henry, Amelia) but I wouldn't think that color typing would lead to such a huge disparity between Clair's and Caeda's ratings.

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I think her rating just wasn't updated since her weapon came out. I mean, her tier was updated to tier 3, and it's kinda hard to believe a 2/5 unit is in that tier. Caeda and Clair are almost identical, with a few stat differences, which makes me think that they're pretty similar performance-wise. So in my opinion, she should be the same rating as Caeda, who has a rating of 4/5.

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by Cav829 7 months 1 week ago

I agree with the others that it's a complete oversight. She was even updated on the site's tier list to tier 3 putting her on the same level as Caeda (and I'd agree she belongs on whatever tier you put Caeda on). My friend put his newly minted +10 Clair out for this round of Grand Conquests, and she's an absolute beast now. While some might see her as slightly less optimal against armor to Caeda because of there being a greater variety of top tier green armors, she is far more optimal against Cavalry thanks to how annoying Sigurd, King Chrom, and Ares can be.

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While I do agree that Claire's remaining in Tier 3 as a 2/5 is an oversight, she does't quite compete with Caeda IMO, and that is solely due to typing (they're pretty much exactly the same other then that). Caeda just has way more important favorable matchups, and even those you name here are still favorable for her. Sigurd just gets doubled and dies, Ares gets OHKO'd by her and Chrom just barely fails to OHKO (Fury Chrom sits at 59 attack while +Atk-Res Caeda has 60 physical bulk), also dying on the second hit from Caeda.

Everything gets way easier when she receives buffs, which can reliably be done in Arena whilst the AI cannot.

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I couldn't disagree more. I think people are trying way too hard to try to place Caeda over her, but in reality it doesn't really matter that there are more high tier green armors than reds because armor teams are going to have at least one blue and one green anyway. Also, Clair will still beat any non-Wary Fighter green armor she can double regardless of color disadvantage.

For example, I run Armorsmasher Soleil on my T20 Arena team and she easily kills Effie, Gwendy, and Hardin if she can double them without even needing buffs. A buffed Clair or Caeda compares in attack to her with SS or Fury 3 in the A slot. Wary Fighter blues are going to present the same obstacle to Caeda that Wary Fighter greens will to Clair. Also, Clair is going to more reliably handle Zelgius, the most consistent and greatest armor threat in T20 Arena anyway.

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Serious question - who cares about how the site rates her? If you care enough about the game to spend time posting on message boards about it, you almost certainly know enough to give any unit a useful build and team comp.

The only really useful thing with these ratings is that they serve as a (often very delayed) snapshot of the high level arena meta, so you know what units to be ready to answer. Other than that, they're just like what I'm writing here - the opinions of someone you don't know on the internet.

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I'm pretty sure it's because Caeda doesn't really have much in terms of competition for being a Flying Red unit, while Clair has a pretty big chunk for competition for Flying Blue unit.

Not counting Caeda, there are only, what, 4 flying red units? H!Nowi, Elincia, NY!Camilla, and Palla, and 2 of them are seasonals, and another one of them is a 5* exclusive. Not much in terms of competition.

Not counting Clair, there are... way more. Catria, Est, Cordelia, Hinoka, Shigure, Tana, F!Morgan (although she's a mage), and B!Ninian (another mage), etc.

If not that, then I dunno. I never really took the ratings on this site to heart because it always seemed kinda weird in terms of how things were rated.

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I do not think those blue fliers could be comparable with Clair unless they have got their Riderbane/Slaying spear. For flying mages, They are almost no threat to those super-merged heavy armor units unless they use Blarblade. Nevertheless, their versatility is far less than Clair‘s.

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