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Who said Black Luna was overrated?

So, I've heard people say Black Luna is overrated, and then they give me the simplest of retorts. This is also an answer to an earlier post of someone pitting a Zelgius (without Bold Fighter mind you) versus a delthea who matches his spd. Now, for those that are doubting if Zelgius can actually kill as much as we say he can, here's my proof.
Those kills are an unmerged Zelgius, with Bold Fighter and an Atk boon, versus 3 iterations of every unit ingame with their strongest builds. That, is what you call overrated. A unit that with a single bit of inheritance, that is by far some of the most common units in arena, can kill almost 600 iterations of all the units in-game,out of about 760 or so builds and iterations. This is what some call overrated.

I still wonder why they say this though, when the majority of units still die flat out to his damage. It's pure insanity to call it overrated when he's still a terrifying unit if you fight anywhere on his terms.

And for those that may doubt my calcs. I took every unit ingame
(yes even Clive) and I gave them their highest merge, and best potential builds. It has yet to be updated for the halloween units, since it has obviously just been released. But every unit is build to the teeth with their best build(s) possible.

And for the guy that posted the Delthea pic. In any actual arena situation, given how 99% of Zelgius have Bold Fighter, she would be dead to rights. She has an hp boon with an hp seal which also works against your claims, whereas she dies from a single hit given that you remove the boon and seal.

I'll post the Zelgius build down below

Asked by ArgentSable2 months 3 weeks ago

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just nilla saying nilla things.

Yeah, I know. Just wanted to show how good he is, he's one of my top 5 villains (sitting at 4) and I have to say that he's really strong (about as strong in Radiant Dawn I might add, Eclipse is the same)

Like, how can you tell me that Zelgius is bad when you pumped your Delthea full of roids to let her survive versus the worst build for a offensive Zelg I've ever seen. XD

wait, so this wasn't some random dude on reddit? I trust Nilla's better than that.

Nope, it was very much Nilla. In this chat specifically for reference.

https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/q-a/has-h-myrhh-tied-zelgius-best-armor

You can see what he calls Zelg sucking if you so wish.

Wait, somebody said Black Luna was overrated?

Yeah I believe it was Nilla in a chat between if Myrrh is better than Zelg and vice versa. Saying that Zelg is bad and that black luna is shit as he pits Zelg with the base kit versus a Delthea (that would die) that he gave an HP+5 seal to try and prove the world wrong. Dunno if he thinks he's smart by giving that Delthea a +5 hp seal when nobody runs that, or if he forgot that Zelg regularly runs Bold Fighter and can probably run through delthea without the HP seal.

Ah, Nilla being Nilla. Anyone can KO anyone in the right player's hands. Not sure why a couple scenarios would change how busted budget Eclipse is.

I wouldn't even bother trying to refute silly examples like that. Black Luna is insane, and I'm pretty sure we all know it. It gets even sillier with stuff like SS + Slaying or Wrath.

If you want, I think I have a video where my BK oneshots a Triangle Adept Nowi with Wrath Luna...

Dude I think I saw that video! Zelg is pure insanity with Wrath and Black Luna.

It's not that video everyone I saw, just one I have on my tablet...

Ahh Ok. My Zelg doesn't have Slaying Edge or wrath (sadly) but I do have Bold Fighter and mines +atk-res so I can't really say much

I remember when I first got Hardin and slapping Aether on him, my blue-on-red attack (bold fighter mind you), he got creamed by Zelgius. I was ticked off. After it happened a second time (first time shame on you, second time shame on me), it opened my eyes.

Of course I shouldn't have had Aether on Hardin at that point, but that's besides the point

Zelgius is shit lmao, cant even kill a neph tahts got nothing but her base weapon and moonbow while being +10 +Atk with db 4 and bold fighter, shit unit, featherfodder.

God Nilla you give me headaches sometimes.

She procs moonbow, of course he won't kill her when she has an anti armor lance and a moonbow special. It's like you act as if all the info on screen isn't there. Not to mention, once more, you've handed her a def boon and this time you avoided handing him Black Luna because he'll OHKO her.

You must truly enjoy trying to prove yourself right by stacking everything against the unit you want to disprove, don't you.

And might I also add. Who the fuck builds Zelgius with Def Ploy? Are you insane XD

You could just not take it seriously, lol.

Well, I really am not. It's just so weird to see someone go so far to prove something blatantly true, false. It's like me putting Legendary Hector against tobin, killing him and saying that Hector is bad. It makes no sense XD

That's why you shouldn't take it seriously. You're walking right into the troll den.

Oh I know. I like to post about Zelg as well (so I don't mind this time).

Especially since I myself have one built up. He's far too fun to run around with, just impaling 90% of the known FE units XD

jajajaja what the fuck are you doing

But what if he was +Spd With Stead Breath QR instead and was initiated on?

Well he still dies. The issue with Neph is that she now has a anti armor lance, so she'll 1 shot him in any scenario where she has it equiped.

Fair enough, it IS Nephenee

wow, zelgius can't kill an armor-effective wrath boosted tanky blue unit? garbage hero. 0/10. nothing but feathers.

🤔

God I love this chat sometimes.

And I am taking this meme XD

A lance unit doing what she's supposed to do.

Who would of thought?

To be fair Nilla was saying Zelgius Black Luna with no skill inharents couldn't kill Delthea, Ya black Luna is amazing but on a unit with low Def already and not being able to double them it's luaghable

Zelg is armored, he doesn't have the speed to double, that's why Bold Fighter is where it's at. Not to mention what you said at the end made no sense. He couldn't kill because of the HP boon and HP +5 A Slot, remove it and put them in the same scenario and we'll talk.

Also, not to be an asshole but

Inheritance, no inharents
laughable not luaghable

I completely agree.
My BK+3 with Wo Dao and Fighter can one-round a +10 Lukas, who is like the pinnacle of F2P defense tanks.

I managed to pull a +Atk -Def Zelgius, and with the double Black Luna proc build he's seriously awesome.

Nice dude, enjoy using him. He's a blast!

One of the f3w armored. Units I enjoy using.

Overrated is usually thrown around by people who are annoyed that other's builds aren't creative enough / don't use the kind of build they use. Overrated is a bad argument overall, anyway. It doesn't make anything bad. It's just a cheap way to attempt to detract something's value.