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Who do you think is the Best/Worst Seasonal unit?

I've summoned so many season exclusives and half of them are horrible ( probably to do with their iv ). Still trying to pull S!Robin and it's a pain, I hope this all pays off.

@Krazytre, you got your last Donnel congratulations xD

Asked by _Absolutely_Disgusting_5 months 2 weeks ago
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by Guts 5 months 2 weeks ago

Even the "low tier" units like Spring Xander have their role, which they can fulfill quite well, so it's not clear, which would be objectively worst. With that said, for me personally, the worst seasonal unit and a unit that I despise the most that I have summoned would have to be Inigo. Got three of him in total and all are -atk, which makes him useless even against blues with triangle adept. The fact that he's a dancer/singer really doesn't save him in my eyes.

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I thought all dancers where concideted useful? But the PA banner had great units with extremely low BST. I summoned a +Atk/-Res PA!Shigure and he is the worst dancer in the game, can't even survive hits from red mages. Spring Xander is actually a god with Ignis.

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They are generally useful, but when you have 5 or more dancers, you start to get picky and the fact that he can dance, doesn't really give him an upper hand in that case.
I said it was my personal pick.

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Nah, it's fine that you brought up that point, that all dancers are considered useful or "good" just by being able to dance/sing.
After my experiences with inigo tho, I learned to disagree with that statement xD

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Thank you, now I can focus all of my feathers on finishing my Donnel.
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The worst seasonal (Legendary units don't count as seasonals, do they?) is probably P!Inigo or P!Shigure. Sure, they're extremely good dancers, but if you take away the dancing aspect, then... they're kinda bad. Pretty bad attack, defense, and resistance, and the speed is not that great either.

If Legendary units do count, then Legendary Lyn. She's probably the most disappointing "unique" unit. Our first colored Bow unit and she's... so disappointing.

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Spring Xander has a ton of defense, allowing him to fire off Bonfire/Ignis bombs to the face.

Performing Inigo and Performing Shigure are... nice, I guess, but the only thing that makes them "useful" to me is the fact that they can dance. Without Dance, they (or at least Inigo since he's the only one I have of the two) are just not great.

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Well, you say that but PA units arent bad. P!Azura is a super great buffer and can work with DC to take down Rein if you so please. P!Olivia is a great mage tank and can even fulfilly a infantry unit check with a poison dagger/kitty paddle for the units you want to make sure are dead (mages or otherwise). P!Inigo is the better of the two, as he has some speed and better stats compared to P!Shigure, who is pretty bad. Shigure is there for dancing, Inigo can counter the meta (Lyn and Rein) and can potentially hurt some blue armors if he gets some atk buffs. Theyre not terrible, theyre just not offensive or focused on other things. If you want to make them offensive (or go stupid like my P!Olivia) then you'd have to give em a bit more than their base kits. (P!Azura's base kit works well, and P!Olivia needs a B Slot and Iceberg with DD3 S Seal and she tanks mages well enough, maybe a weapon change)

I can see INigo and Shigure being bad though overall, compared to the leading ladies of that banner.

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I have PA!Olivia with the worst iv +HP/-Spd :/ , but still built her into a debuffer, never used her for arena or anything else except for AA. I also have a PA!Azura with the worst iv and she actually does serve well aswell as buffing teammates. It's probably because of their low BST or how they are built that people automatically think and assume they are bad units.

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It also depends on the game mode a lot. For example, in GHBs/BHBs dancers are extremely valuable. You could also argue that they might be crucial in chain challenges or squad assaults and for SP farming. That's where their viability pretty much ends tho. In arena, for example, I'm forced to play the highest scoring units if I want to stay in tier 20 and keep getting max rewards, so dancers (even a +10 regular Olivia) are impossible to play. You might put one on a defense team, if you are somehow unable to get a defense win, but even that is not really needed. The last point then is arena assault, which is kind of a subjective matter, because (again) if you are scoring high, you will be meeting +10 units throughout all your 7 battles and if I were to put my inigo there, he would get killed even against the weapon triangle (yeah, it happened), so I just don't bother and play units that can actually hold their own.

TL;dr So basically, the higher you get in arena, the less useful dancers become imho.

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Well, if you have bad IV"s and you havent invested much into them ( I invested into all my dancers a fair bit) then yes, they will die to +10's. A +atk Inigo can kill the occasional Hardin thanks to his triangle adept, and Shigure can do some damage to Zelgius if he's low enough for the kill. Olivia kills dragns for me (that's just my build though, unique XD) and Azura can buff a bladetome/kill blues like nobodies business. I will say, if you have stupid high merges,it's less of an issue regarding who you use, cause if you're using two super high merged units for your arena core with a super merged dancer with pricey skills, IE DC, CC< etc. You can actually make up some score by giving them skills you normally wouldn't see. That being said, merging and giving dancers goodies isnt fore everyone. As theyre not offensively capable all the time, so merge them at your own pace I suppose.

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Don't worry, I calculated it and a +10 Olivia even with DC and Aether, a different weapon and 240sp B and C slot, would give me much less score than what I'm currently using. Also, since I don't pay for this game, I will never have a +10 dancer, that is not regular Olivia and even if I did, I wouldn't be able to use it, because of arena score. They would become usable in arena assault, but that's beyond the point. The arena (offense) viability of dancers is still non-existant for tier 20 purposes.

I mean, even though I like dancers in concept and like coming up with obscure uses for my units, I'm being constantly discouraged from doing that because of the bullshit scoring system that the game's main mode (Arena) is based on.

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Yup. I actually got some good IV"s on my Olivia and Azura (Azura is +res-def and Olivia is +atk-def, though for my current stupid build I may want to change those IVs) and they serve very well (team buffer/ranged check and dragon killer, yes, dragon killer Olivia)) and though the bst isn't as high as it could be, I still find them extremely useful for movement, buffing, or all arond support/killing the occasional unit here and there.

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The performing units weren't really treated equally.

P!Olivia serves as a dagger unit. That alone gives her much more utility than the other units on the banner, allowing her to debuff the enemy.

P!Azura's main main shtick is dancing due to Urðr's effect, but even then she still has fairly decent attack and speed.

P!Inigo... he can counter Brave Lyn and Reinhardt, two units that everyone and their grandmother has counters to, so I guess that accounts for something, but other then that, he's not really that great. Nothing screams at me to use him other then the fact that he's a dancer. He has low HP, low attack, low defense, and low resistance. His speed can be increased to good numbers, but unless you're using something like Brazen Atk/Spd, or doing some insane buffing with someone like M!Corrin, then...

He can heal, I guess.

Shigure has decent attack and... workable resistance, but that's about it.

If you take away their dancing, then, out of all the seasonal units, those two are, in my opinion, the worst.

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I have roughly every seasonal unit, spare a few I really didn't want to pick up. Some of the seasonal units I consider the best are PA! Azura, LA Hector, Winter Tharja, all obvious choices. However, my top pick goes to Bridelia. I love her offensive power and quad potential, and I find myself favoring her over my Bow Lyn. As for the worst, I would have to say Summer Leo. I just don't view him as much of an improvement over the base Leo, and find his playstyle very vanilla.

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Damn, absolutely forgot about Summer Leo. That might be a testament to how forgettable he is. I mean, it's kind of sad that a seasonal unit, which is supposed to be somewhat special is just a worse version of a free GHB hero that we got afterwards (Arvis).

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