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Which Arvis is better?

With Saias coming out soon, it would be useful to know whether or not he'd be better, worse, or about the same as Arvis. Better defensive stats, worse offensive stats (both only by 1 point), but the ability for a quad ploy is real good. Any inputs?

Asked by Devon11388 months 2 weeks ago
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They'll both be pretty good, probably. The only difference is the colors--Arvis will combat greens like Julia and Deirdre, while Saias will be used more against the general red cast.

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I can see Saias being a slightly better combatant against normal Reinhardt, without the TA advantage against him and slightly higher Res, and he could be useful against people like Ayra. I'm planning on investing in him anyway since ploy boys = best boys, but I was curious

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by James5 8 months 3 weeks ago

Arvis is still better. Because people forget his exclusive B skill "Recovery Ring" aka Renewal 4. It negates the -6 damage from Fury 3 the next turn and allows him to use Ardent Sacrifice. So when he is not attacking he is healing while also functioning as ployboy.

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What else do you put on Arvis? Seriously, I don't think there's a single unit who's more suited. I've seen Fortress Res as his seal before, but never anything but Fury for A.

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I use him almost religiously and have never used a different A skill, nothing else boosts his Res (flatly so as to increase ploys) and his Atk. It even brings his Spd to decent levels to either prevent doubles or even gain doubles when in conjunction with Spd Ploy.

Although I wanted him to come as a CC armored mage in-game CC is a waste on him, TA is what Lyon or Sophia want, any Blow/Stance/Bond skills won't help him use Ploys, if not Fury what else?

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I've seen Arvis with quite a few different builds, although they're pretty much the same thing you can do with every other mage. I've seen with him Rauðrblade and Life and Death and Rauðrraven with Triangle Adept. I've also seen him use Valflame, but use a different A skill (Fortress Res, but this was before it was a seal), or use Fury but a different B skill.

So it's not always just Fury + Recover Ring for everyone that uses Arvis.

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I know that anyone can really run any set since stats aren't really as big of a deal ("I sent home Hector because he was -Atk") as everyone makes them seem but Arvis comes with his best tome and the one of the best B skills to run Fury with.

I just don't really get the point of promoting a Tharja for Blade+ when her offensive stats support it better, Henry doesn't have good Res but it's just as easy to give Lyon Sophia the tome. People can do whatever, but as far as recommendations go I wouldn't suggest anything but Fury.

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That's the beauty of Fire Emblem. You don't have to use Tharja just because she has better attack/speed than another unit that you really like. Why do people build Odin even though he's arguably one of the worst units in the game as far as power? Because it's all about preference.

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If people want to run Fury+Quick Repose or LnD+*Def/Res stat special* that's fine as they can use what they like and I'm not going to stop them. People recommending those or similar sets on the other hand is not okay.

Sure Ephraim is my favorite unit in FE and he CAN use Distant Counter, does that mean I'm going to suggest other people give him DC? No.

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I mean.. there's nothing wrong with recommending a particular set, or skill, to someone building a particular unit as long as that person specifies what said recommendation is for. A LOT of the "recommended" builds on this website has some of the flimsiest units using Distant Counter. Is it the most "recommended" A slot for general use? If they're as flimsy as a piece of wet cardboard, then no, but if they specify what said role is for the unit, and how Distant Counter fits on them and synergizes with the rest of the build, then there's nothing wrong in doing so.

Looking on Ephraim's builds on his page on this site, you can see a set that has Distant Counter on it AS WELL AS other skills/refinements to support said skill. +Res Ephraim with +Res refined Siegmund, QR, and Distant Defense. Is it the best mage tank? In my opinion no, but if it works then it works.

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by -Le 8 months 3 weeks ago

hes basically a blue arvis. and he has a sick animation as well.

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Saias and Arvis will be very similar, arguably interchangeable, if not for Arvis’s b slot. The recovery ring allows Arvis to do a couple of things better then Saias right now. He can run fury better and be a combat medic with Ardent Sacrifice, and a good one at that. Sure Saias can run the same set with renewal, but the constant healing puts Arvis a step above. Both will be good, as I plan on 5*ing a Saias dispite having a built 5* Arvis, but objectively speaking, Arvis just edges out Saias.

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by Tryq 8 months 3 weeks ago

I personally don't really have many good blue mages, save for a certain tiny hands man. I'll be sure to 5* Saias and use him as more of a defensive unit

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