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Welp not spending a single orb on the Clashing Thunders 1/2 banners 8 fucking blue units wtf

Edit: I say that and decided to go do my free summon and got fucking Ophelia on the banner she's not even a focus on sadly -Spd +Hp but we'll atleast I can merge her onto my +Def -Res one

Asked by GVader2 months ago
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And one of the banners is absolutely awful. Still not as bad as that banner with Donnel, Cherche, and Olivia

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Banner 2 has 4 5* exclusive's (even tho one of them should just get demoted to 3-4* I'm looking at you Olwen). banner 1 has 2 3-4* units and 4-5* unit (who honestly should be demoted to 3-4*) and only 1 5* exclusive (Who I've been trying to obtain since she first came out but with 4 Blue units the odds of getting her is very slim) so that's a pretty shitty banner even tho I got a free 5* exclusive unit on the wrong banner it still doesn't change the fact that it's a shit banner

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If only.

The 3% focus chance isn't per unit, it's shared. So it's still a 6% chance of getting a 5*.

When the units share the same color, it actually reduces your odds of getting a specific one. On these banners there's only a 0.75% chance of pulling a specific focus unit.

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I only factored the probability per blue orb, not blue orb appearance. 6% is still pretty good. And yes, it's not good for unit sniping but for those that may just want a good blue mage (less Olwen) then it's on par with L!Banners minus the F!Morgan pity breaker.

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Here's the thing other than Delthea the 1st banner is rather shit unless you are trying to save 20k feathers for merges, and the second one you still have to worry about getting pity broken by Olwen, sure Olwen can be good but she is just severely outclassed by Reinhardt

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Isn't it still 3%? I thought the chance was calculated by 3% chance you get a focus unit per orb. When sniping I think the equation for a 5 star would be focus unit / 3-4* blue orb unit chance + focus chance

So it's less than 12, but higher than 3

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It's 3% per Focus i.e Hero, so 4 heroes would be 12%. Then you factor in blue orb appearance which would lower that percent, but it's still pretty high.

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that would be an insane number though I'm not sure. Do you have a link? I could've sworn I had the right numbers on it but I could be wrong.

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Not 'that' insane of a number, it'll be below 12 but higher than 3 that's all (as you said). I don't have a link, too tired to do that math myself atm :P
It's not that difficult to calculate tbh

EDIT: alright, I did the math, it's 3.12% LoL

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By my math it'd be those numbers. With your math it'd be much much higher than 12%. I could've sworn the way focus units is different.

I think it works like this

Each orb contains that ratio stats by the banner. Each orb has a 6% chance to be a 5 star, 3% chance to be a focus unit, and a 94% chance to be a 3-4 star unit. This calculation is done for each orb and then when the pity rate goes up it adjusts. the reason why it's easier to get a 5 star is that you know 3% of those orbs are going to have a blue focus unit.

This is when you get sniping involved. Let's say that 27% of the 3-4 star pool is blue. Since you are sniping, the chances of you getting a 5 star if you pull sensibly becomes much higher. The chance of getting a 5 star with only blue becomes
3%+5 stars in blue pool of 3% (let's say around .8%?)/(27%/94%)
that becomes .038/.287
So the chance of getting a 5 star focus in this scenario with my made up numbers would be 13.24% chance. The numbers may be similar? But I'm pretty sure that's the math behind it.

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Well, here's what I did:
- Found the sum of current heroes in the main pool => 300
- Divided the total by the sum of the sum of blue heroes (which I then assume to be the appearance rate of blue orbs) = 78/300 = 26%
- Since there are 4 blue focus units we get a 12% chance of getting a 5* from a blue orb.
:. Your overall chance of getting a blue orb and then getting a 5* would be 12/26 = 3.12%

EDIT: If there's something wrong with my math/understanding of how the rates work, feel free to let me know.

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I kinda wish there was a guide because the math doesn't seem right. 12/26 is not .0312 and I think focus is done separate. If it wasn't the 94% chance of not getting a 5 star couldn't exist. Maybe we should start a new thread asking someone on this. Although your numbers aren't for sniping and mine are the math is very different. In my scenario it wouldn't change at all because you'd simply just use the 6% and put it over 94% for your chance to pull a 5 star. If you pull everything this banner changes nothing in percents wait it'd be over 100 why am I stupid

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Extremely tempted since Linde đź‘Ź is a focus unit, but at the same time I need H!Myrrh.

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I'm also quite sad they didn't make it Ophelia v. Odin and Reinhardt v. Olwen, I know they grouped them this way because of the banners but still

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WTF. WHY I GOT SO MUCH SHIT AND EVERYONE'S GOT OP THINGS!?!?!?!?

GG Btw, She's Gonna Serve You Well.

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