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Way to fix AR problem

With AR not depending on BST many people are running characters like B!Veronica and such which are a pain to deal, the easiest way to fix that would be introducing BST but that would kill the mode.

Here's my solution introduce a penality system, have a list of character that gives a malus that decreases the amount of lift you get (or increases the lift you loose in case of def) but only if you use certain characters, like:
10 if you have 1
25 if you have 2
50 if you have 3
80 of you have 4
The list of character that in my opinion should give a penality are: B!Veronica, Reinhardt, B!Lyn and Surtr.
This should also include a list of character that have a "lower weight penality", essentially those character gives a penality only if you use character from that list, and dancers could be considered as such. For example just having Olivia on the team doesn't give any penality but if you have both Olivia and B!Veronica then you'll have 2 character that give penality.
Those list doesn't stay the same all the time, they could remove or add someone based on how things are going.
What do you think about my idea?

Asked by Yezzo973 weeks 1 day ago
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by Nilla 3 weeks 1 day ago

I think its stupid and that theres very ltitle by way of challenge in this game mode since I just use Fae to solo almost every map, while others use tadept ceceilia to face tank blyns, reins, and veronicas. The onyl reason people are finding things difficult is because theyre too lazy to put the minor investment into a character to counter threats.

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I personally don't find it impossible to deal with but sometimes I have to let someone die if I want to make it in time, Surtr is quite a pain to deal with if you have to keep track of B!Veronica+dancer

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I have a Fae similar to yours and she is amazing, but I have found a few brutal ones lately. Mostly all 3 color attacks no matter where you stand plus dancer. Those can get rough, taking two hits from Veronica plus a red attack.

She has steady breath, QR3, and DD seal

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Youre also not running her with tactics and having her hang out next to a spur def/res+drive def unit, in all likely hood.

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True. She has fortify dragons for my SS Nowi, in case she has to step up on enemy phase, but not the other way around. But she is by Veronica with close guard for the cav riders like L Ericka and L Eph, but also drive Res seal. Suggestions?

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TBH I think even a 4star cecilia, with no other inheritance other than triangle adept, is a hard counter to the veronica+reinhardt+lyn+dancer combo thats so common, assuming the lyn isnt running cancel affinity (which seems surprisingly uncommon)

Its kind of soon to pass judgement on AR, remember that eventually you're going to be doing 5 offense vs 6 defense units. I expect we'll see a lot more creativity at that point

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i would prefer an old ban system. like ban 5 units for a week with a rotation every week
the askr trio cant be banned coz of the new players

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Well since F!Robin is getting a refine, they may become easier than ever to deal with, especially if she retains Cav effectiveness.

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Definitely an interesting idea and potentially viable.

I think it might be better to make some of those as penalties and the others as bonuses.

For example:
B.Veronica = decreased lift, or maybe decreased lift when combined with certain units or units with certain skills
Use no dancer = bonus lift

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