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Uncommon unit thoughts on Olwen

It's been a while since I have done one of these.

Let's talk about Olwen.

Olwen is the sister of Reinhardt. She has Dire Thunder just like his brother. However, these Friege mage knights have differing stats. Reinhardt is more focused on Attack and having a bit more defense while Olwen has more Speed and Res.

Why is Olwen not seen as much as Reinhardt? Simply put, Reinhardt has more attack and that matters a ton of offensive based match-ups. Also, Olwen has a low base attack as it is. Olwen can't run the same kind of offensive builds as her brother due to this. For example, QP + Moonbow is not as effective on Olwen compared to Reinhardt.

I still think Olwen is underused because with +Attack or Speed, she can still run a standard blade tome build or go in on a Fury / Life and Death and desperation build with Dire Thunder and make some good mileage off of her speedy Dire Thunder sets.

I guess you can argue that L'Arachel can be more suited to those types of offensive builds with Ivaldi and being a magic check support to teams especially against dragons with Res tactic.

Ursula can possibly match Olwen's blade tome prowess or even make a nice niche set with Blarwolf.

I wanted to bring up Olwen because she hasn't been on a focus banner for a while and I was thinking about how Ursula, Reinhardt, L'Arachel, and Olwen are doing in the meta.

What are your thoughts on Olwen? Let me know what you think.

Asked by Hk74310 months 1 week ago
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My thoughts on female Magic is Everything (kidding) is that she's good in her own way. She can't necessarily be compared to her brother because her stats lets her be more flexible.

The bad thing about Olwen is that you NEED an attack boon, and even with said boon, she'll only be at 30 attack.

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People can still make use of a Speed Boon on Olwen, especially running a desperation set. This is especially the case on a horse team.

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I would've thought Speed was unneeded considering she has a base speed of 34, which goes up to 40 with Hone Cavalry's +6, and 44 if you foddered off Reinhardt or Camus for Goad Cavalry.

Her damage is just too low that with neutral attack, you're missing 4 points in the attack stat, and an attack-bane Olwen (the one I was pity-broken with... -_-) is just... it can't be worked with. XD.

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I completely understand that. If you have a -Attack Olwen, then you should run a blade tome set then to make use of the horse buffs.

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I think the reason you don't see Olwen very much is fairly simple - she is 5* exclusive. It is much easier to pull a Reinhardt, period, and even more so a "good" one. This also makes him much easier to merge for arena scoring.

Also Olwen's best set is arguably the blade tome set, which has really been pushed out of the metagame by panic Ploy and the various heroes with skills or weapons that nullify movement type buffs.

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I've always had a +2Olwen, and no reins... I've always found her really situational to use with Dire Thunder because, even quadding, I find she often only does 2-4 damage per hit and I end up having to rely on Glacies/Iceberg to do any real damage. She's ok for AA but once you try using her on maps with inflated stats, she winds up having such low attack that she can't even dent the enemy. (Mine's +spd-def BTW)

This has just been my experience with her. She is marginally more useful with life and death, but if she can't kill the enemy in her first two hits, usually the enemy can kill her in one shot of retaliation before she can fire her remaining two shots.

i've never used her as a bladetome (not too big on horse emblem to bother building her with it and I never end up pulling any Odins (and she can't have my Tailtui!)), but I think she's more useful there because she doesn't need LnD which lets her take at least one hit before going into desperation range and bombing the enemy. Outside of horse emblem her attack is way too low and she's far too fragile to be of use. L'Arachel and even Ursula are far superior in that way.

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by TG15 10 months 2 weeks ago

The fact that Olwen is 5* exclusive has a lot to do with why she isn’t seen as much. That and the fact that Brave magic with a high base attack overrules bad base attack with a chance to maybe quad, or rebuild her from the ground up into a bladetome unit. But Reinhardt can function with an attack bane (not recommended, but possible), and Olwen becomes completely useless with an attack bane, is still outclassed with a neutral attack, and is usable but nothing to be proud of with an attack boon, especially if she has a speed bane. Olwen is a total crapshoot. I you get her, that’s half the battle, but the other is the impending Russian Roulette with her stats where you have a 2 in 5 chance that she will be bad, a 2 in 5 chance she will be meh, or 1 in 5 that she will be perfect.

Let’s face it though: she has been outclassed for some time. Reinhardt is better, whatever counters him will destroy Olwen, and units like L’Arachel now run a more accessible and better blade build than Olwen, even Ursula has a higher viability due to being readily available for merges and not being payblocked from high level merging. She is in the shadow of just about every blue tome horse.

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I do agree with your point. The fact that she among a ton of other 5 star exclusive heroes makes her rare. I have seen some good Olwens even to this day by some players.

She has been overshadowed for some time yes, but I still feel like Olwen can still be viable. I wouldn't say she's better than Reinhardt for sure.

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