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TT and GHB Unit Tier List

Now that we can fully +10 these units, who do you think will be top and still be pretty bottom? Note that these are my opinions and how I think these unit should perform so absolutely feel free to disagree. These are my thoughts....
(And no, I won't put my personal bias into it. Otherwise Navarre and Oliver would be 1 and everyone else would be 8)

1:
Black Knight
Arden

2:
LA!Eliwood
M!Kana
Linus
M!Lucina
Valter
Zephel

3:
Lyon
Julius
Garon
Walhart
F!Takumi
Saias
Xander
Michaelis

4:
Ethlyn
Jamke
Marissa
Navarre
Joshua
Arvis
Gerome
Legion
Camus

5:
Narcian
Clarisse
Lloyd
Finn
Berkut
NY!Corrin
Ursula
B!Marth

6:
Tobin
Clive
Oliver
Canas
F!Robin

So, what do you think? Think I'm pretty accurate with their performance now that they can be +10'd?

Asked by ShieldOfWind1 month 3 weeks ago

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I’d personally raise Clive’s ranking. He’s pretty much a cavlier lukas now, but some less defense and some more attack.

Ursula should be bottom tier imo. (Worst tier.)
All she can do (even with plus 10) is color checks like blarravven to triangle adept...and others can do it better.
I like her, but I dont see it.

Navarre should be lowered. He is in a heavily competed class, and is outclassed by pretty much 90% of them.

I'm kinda mixed with Navarre's ranking. He's really fast and can have 50+ atk and 40+ speed at the same time. So it's a bit hard where I think I should place him as he can double most of the cast and do good damage, and run fairly unique sets, but I choose the middle road for him. Unsure where to put him as he's not great, but he's far from the worst.

Also you forgot finn lol

Lol, kinda forgot he was in the game XD
There we go. Edited. I think that's about where he'd place.

->Kinda Forgot He Was In The Game

*Dies Of Heart Attack*(Not Offending Ya)

Changes I'd make:

Demotions
Arden 1>2
Valter and Masked 2>3 (Lucina and masked should stay in the same tier)
Lyon, Xander and F!Takumi to 3>4
Navarre 4>5
Clarisse 5>6

promotions
Lloyd 5>4
Gerome and Arvis 4>3 (seriously, Arvis under Saias?)

I can agree with these. My list is only a shot in the dark so I'm fine with this.
Also yeah, I completely didn't notice I placed Arvis under Saias when they should be the same. I totally agree with that. My bad :p

It's not easy to say anyway.
Besides, a lot is riding on two things:
1# How many grails we'll get
2# How quickly some units get refines

Lemme make a list of my expectations for refines

Units that have a high chance for refine:
Lyon - Saias - Arvis - Berkut - Clive - Joshua - Olivier - Navarre - Jamke - Robin - Narcian

Units with a refine already (so they likely won't change):
Zephiel - Michalis - Lloyd - Masked Marth - Linus

Units with a very low chance of getting a refine (any time soon):
Arden - NY Corrin - LA Eliwood - Groom Marth - Walhart - Ethlyn - Garon - Aversa - Halloween Dorcas

I left a few out as middle of the road but..
This is a guildline I keep in mind when picking which character will have long term potential.
Cuz Grails are not going to be cheap.

I definitely want to redo this personal thought tier list once a lot of these units get refines. It could help them greatly.

After 3.0 we are probably in a better position to judge long term things.
Because while I'm tempering my expectations for it, I'm sure it still holds a surprise or two.

If only a larger batch of refines.

Are these in relation to their current tier placement rn? If so, then a lot of them can make it to tier 3-2 given that the +4 to all stat helps most of them (eg. Camus, Marissa and Joshua can actually become pretty fast AND tanky with +10 merges and while Saias does have a higher BST, Arvis can essentially get +4/7/7/7/7 to his stats with Fury)

I think LAWood might be Tier 1 too, and FTakumi as Tier 4 (unless I'm missing the logic). LA Eliwood has top-notch BST, great stat spread for build flexibility, and a crazy high natural attack stat without IVs. Above all though, similar to Winter Robin, he focuses more on Speed. And with Special Fighter being good on fast tanks, and Null Follow-Up making speed tanks looking better than ever, I think he'll be easily able to match a lot of the other tanks. Tier 2 might just fit still, but I feel like there's a chance of top.

Also, you forgot about Halloween Dorcas, Easy Tier 1.

Fallen Takumi I tried some builds on and he still just seemed underwhelming. Though as I said, maybe I'm just missing something...?

Assuming that these arent the actual tiers kinda. None of them will be tier 1 I think. Also Jamke >Takumi, Valter lower, Michaelis lower, Tobin 1 higher, Finn 1 higher, G!Marth one higher, Walhart one lower.