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These new units are amazing....

Red Infantry Dragon Garon?

High attack Ophelia?
High Def Silas?
Flora with 18 base def? Wtf?

Asked by Krazytre3 months 2 weeks ago
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Ophelia tied for highest Atk stat for a Mage in the game with Lilina and Sanaki, if I'm not mistaken--quite the opposite from her father Odin. :O She's the best unit from this banner, in my opinion.

Flora seems way too underwhelming with her low Spd. I anticipated that her Def would be low since the weapon would make up for it. (I mean, no way we were getting a 30+ Def unit, on top of a weapon that gives +20 more Def.)

The other two units seem fine, though. Also, it's nice seeing the Muspell OCs become available for everyone.

But can we talk about how Garon and Helbindi are min-maxed so well that it's actually pretty scary--and that they aren't Armor?

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Oh, I know that.

It's just that their stats in Atk / Def / Res are just so reminiscent of what one would find on Armors despite not being Armor. (I guess it might just be a weird thing to point it out?)

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High attack means nothing with low speed for blue mages. She can't compare to Reinhardt or Ishtar. Reinhardt everyone knows lol, Ishtar gets to 46 Spd with just Mjolnir and Swift Sparrow... 55/46. Ophelia can barely reach that with +Spd, Darting Blow, and Speed +3 and even then Missiletainn is only 14 mt... 51/45. 4 Atk with speedy bruisers means 8 less damage. Ishtar doubles units with Despo and activates Moonbow instantly every round. Reinhardt is... Reinhardt.
Silas can be easily mitigated by Lukas or Nephenee who seem to have better options than he does, like Lukas's mixed tank build and Neph's speediness and her tankiness.
Garon might actually be as good as Tiki, but his lack of IVs and merging seriously puts him behind.
Nina has pretty good stats but she's nothing compared to Bridelia and Lyn, not to mention Brave Bow Bold Fighter Jakob...
All in all, the only unit I see being extremely good is Flora; the rest have their niches and nice skills to inherit or keep. If you like the character, cool. Do what you want, but I'm skipping this one to save up 100+ orbs for legendary banner.

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Well, I know that Ophelia isn't quite fast, but her tome is incredibly powerful in that it allows her to fully charge her Special in the very first fight if she so chooses. (She could do a 1st turn AOE build, or run a Special Spiral + Heavy Blade combo to wreck everything.) She is essentially a Blue Lilina that can one-shot rather than rely on doubles to get her kills like Ishtar or Reinhardt. She has the potential to become one of the best Blue Mages in the game.

Flora honestly is really underwhelming, in my opinion, because a lot of DC units will have the high Def to deal with her relatively higher Atk stat. Plenty of them run Quick Riposte, meaning that the weapon becomes a huge detriment as it would mainly be charging the enemy's Special. Because of her low Spd, she also won't be able to deal with most Wary Fighter Armor units (The weapon and skill will cancel out, and the double becomes dependent on a Spd check--which Flora isn't going to win most of the time with her 23 Spd base.) Despite this, I still think that she has a good niche that no one else has, and it's not that she's bad--just underwhelming.

For Silas, I think that he's fine being a physically sturdy Blue Cavalry unit--something that we don't really have. Also, he does have access to Cavalry buffs and isn't forced into Mixed teams to get max buffs. (Also, can't he run Berkut's Lance as well? He might not have access to Warding Breath, but he can literally run anything else that Lukas / Nephenee might want to run in the A-Skill like Close Def, Distant Def, Warding Stance, etc. and has higher Res than the both of them.)

Nina might not have the same offensive spread as B!Cordelia or any of the other Archers, but she is still pretty decent especially off of her 37 Spd. (I know that she and Silas aren't going to be top tier, meta-defining units or replace current popular options.)

Anyway, I never said that I was going to spend here. I just wanted to point out that these units are actually pretty nice for what they are, even if Flora is a bit more underwhelming than I expected.

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Flora's Atk and Def stats tempt me to feed her CC. Doesn't seem logical, I'm still working out how to best work with her stats in a unique build.

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I'm pretty sure the +20 Def from Hoarfrost only activates when she initiates combat against melee... so she'll still end up with base 18 Def on Enemy Phase.

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