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Is there still any reason to merge Nowi?

I wanted to open this topic because Galaxia asked about merging Nowi, and with +5 myself I'm not convinced I want to finish this project. Here's why.

In arena, she's no longer one of the best choices. B infantry duel is coming which means units with prfs are just going to outscore her; plus, she's not even among the best of support units. Light breath and dark breath do offer some interesting options, but she can't use galeforce and the other 500SP specials have a tendency to kill people. (And if you're not spamming SP, I think it's best just to say screw the whole nonsensical system.) Also, L.Tiki wrecks her and L.Marth wrecks her whereas armours at least have a ton of def and HP and wary fighter if they run into anti-armour weapons (Micaiah will still be a threat), and breakers are rare.

So that leaves PvE, where +spd is advantageous. Now, look at this:
Nowi+7, +spd -HP with lightning breath+spd: 49/36/32/29, 50HP
L.Tiki+0, neutral 50/35/37/29, 45HP

7 merges, and the little hooded dragon is still ahead of her, AND can use special fighter (or whichever armour skill is preferred), AND has an insanely powerful C-skill, AND gives blessing bonuses half the time. Let's go the distance.

Nowi+10, +spd -HP, lightning breath +spd: 50/37/34/30, 51HP

By the way, there's this:
L.Tiki+0, neutral with summoner support: 52/37/39/31, 50HP.

So Nowi can retire to the mist of history?

Asked by Seeker2 months 1 week ago

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Only if you truly like Nowi, I guess.

If you REALLY care about maximizing your score as much as possible, then I guess?

Ofc an armor unit is going to have higher stats, what else would you expect?

Also L!Tiki is gen three and Nowi is gen 1.
I would say Nowi is still worth it though, as she is still the best infantry blue dragon. She was demoted from S+ tier to S recently, but that doesn't mean that she is any less powerful than she was before.

My point wasn't that I'm appalled that some armour comes in and has more stats; that's just being armoured. (I do find bothersome how completely Nowi gets eclipsed though)

One interpretation of my argument might be that Nowi is worth building but not worth merging. She'll do quite well without merges.

She MAY have a refined weapon in the future like A.Tiki.
And she's an infantry (so L-Marth with his C skill can be a good friend) unlike L-tiki.
Also it's way easy to +10 her.

Yeah I was thinking about this one - she might get a prf. Now that L.Tiki is here it would actually be justifiable, but I'd still be bothered if units like Henry didn't get prfs first.

Also good point about infantry special-acceleration buffs, but special fighter I think is straight up better because it works on both phases like infantry rush/flash but on both units' actions, AND it denies enemy special charges. The only thing is that it takes up the B-slot whereas Nowi could receive the buff and still use, for example, special spiral.

But about being easy to +10 I think you missed my point. I suggested why she might not be worth to +10 even if it's easier to give her that treatment than, say, +4 on L.Tiki.

I would say currently she is no longer a high priority merge project for many of the reasons you stated. Also being that we are now in the midst of gen 3 units she is naturally going to be outclassed at this point.

With all that being said she is still a top tier gen 1 unit and still powerful to some degree in today's game. Since you already have her to +5 I would gradually finish her when you have resources to spare. Hopefully she will receive a weapon refine at some point to make her more relevant again. A!Tiki and Y!Tiki got one so there is a chance that it could happen.

My idea was that I'll maybe add one merge to change to the IV I want (I'm currently on +spd -res because it was that or -def and I thought she takes more hits to her def than her res) and I'll finish the merge if she gets a prf.

lol... You're forgetting the part that Nowi doesn't break if hit with a hammer, has two move at all time, etc.

Unit X isn't as good as 5 star exclusive legendary unit Y, so I shouldn't bother right?

Nowi still kicks ass. She'll eventually get a prf weapon, just like eventually we will have roy emblem, and eventually legendary tiki will suck ass compared to legendary Nowi, and eventually Glade will have higher BST than all other Calvary, and eventually blah blah blah

Its up to you if you want to use the feathers or not. She's still a good, reliable unit that can clear most abyssal content and score decently in arena.

I'm late with the reply, but this is for those who read this thread because I link back to it.

I made the case that Nowi isn't especially good in arena, which leaves PvE. How often do you see slaying hammers in PvE? And even if you do, why don't you have a unit that's not blue to deal with it?

About her getting a prf, I guess yes as I mentioned earlier, question of time, but I could finish the merge later.

So I don't see from your response why investing in L.Tiki+0 isn't more resource-efficient unless you draw -spd.

Well, the comparison seems very unfair to be honest.
Tiki is a legendary hero post cyl, so she had ridiculous stats in adittion to a prf AND unique skill.
Do keep in mind that, add good as legends are, they are not exactly the cheaper to build to +10, and they come once every 3 months to boot.
Sure, comparing stats and skills there is no doubt that nowi is outclassed, but that's not the point of this debate, since unless you are a whale, getting tiki to max merge is just not feasible, and therefore you are losing scoring in arena.
For pve content there is no competition tho, tiki wins hands down.

So we are agreed that L.Tiki has an advantage when we talk strictly about combat, which means that merging is a question of score, in which case my point was that other units are much better as support units, yes? So better to merge someone else.

You might as well use a Nowi with summoner support as reference too. Mine is +9 +spd - HP, so I can say that investing in speed is more useful than the -spd/breath build. Yeah, you probably won't proc eather, but most things will die by being attacked two times anyway. I laugh in my insides each time I see a manakete with a breath build at the arena- "what if I just bait it and kill easily in the counter attack instead of attacking it...?" Its the same with armors. Vengeful and Bold fighters can be easily killed on initiation. Just deal with L Tiki with another unit (like the also "obsolete" Fae)
Also it should be taken in consideration that Nowi can make use of the bonus from blessings. Is not that much, but any tiny number helps.

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