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Imo save for a legendary banner when you can have more orbs. Because if you pull for hinoka is possible that the amount of orbs fall short and you get nothing.

imo, go for it! the next legendary banner is still a while away and i dont think most of the characters you want will appear in the next one (but i would recommend to check for speculations!) besides, feh is surprisingly generous — i just started saving after the brave redux banner ended, and ive gotten 100 orbs so far. it wouldn’t be too hard to regain your orb count. i got kinshinoka in under 70 orbs on her original banner, and so did everyone else that i know pulled her (although you should take this info with a particularly large grain of salt. rng is unpredictable) and since she doesnt share a focus, i think she wouldnt be too hard to get.

tldr; i say go for it, shes a great unit, chances of getting her are decent and you have lots of time to reaccumulate orbs if you had to spend a lot of them. good luck, i hope you get the units you want regardless of your choice!

The average needed is irrelevant. You might get it in five or ten orbs, or you might not get it if you had 300 to spend. At 84, there's a very good chance you wouldn't get the one you wanted, and a decent chance you wouldn't get any focus unit.

I've thought about pulling on this banner, since I don't have a Leo yet and my Ryoma is the worst possible IVs, but I have no orbs saved up, so I couldn't scrape together many to throw at it, and the odds of me getting one of the ones I want in what I could scrape together don't look good. So, even though I'd really like a Leo, I probably won't bother with this banner.

For colourless on a 3%/3% banner with three focus units I'm going to guess somewhere around 100 orbs is average, and 150 orbs is relatively safe.

I don't remember if you've told me what your goals are in the game, but generally speaking I think L.Lucina is a much more important pull than bow Hinoka even though I have this Hinoka and she's really good. The little bit of extra mobility that Lucina offers is really killer in GC; I always include her regardless of what movement type has bonuses that round.

Try looking at some of the GamePress "should you pull" articles for 3%/3% banners and for legendary banners. They will show you what the probability is of obtaining a focus unit within any given number of orbs.

A few quick tips for legendary banners:
- Historically, 200+ orbs is a recommended number to have ready if you want to pull a legendary hero (or any specific focus unit) who's not red or green. For green I think you can get away with 160 enough of the time; for reds I don't think you have a solid bet with less than 230-240 orbs (that said, 230 isn't a bad bet, but it's still somewhere around 50/50).
- A lot of us are expecting that we start to see 5 legendaries per banner, so a double-up in one colour. That does make it easier to obtain legendaries if you want both of the same colour.
- L.Lucina is scheduled for return at the end of the month. Hector comes in December with Marth. L.Eirika returns in January.
- I will be slightly surprised if S.Cordelia does not appear with L.Lucina. The third unit...is really a pretty loose guess, but I'm slightly expecting a mage, so some possibility of a quick return for Ophelia, but after the VG banner, doesn't seem right, so...I haven't much clue. I do think the new legendary is probably green because Gunnthra has received more runs than any of the other legendaries except Grima, and IS neglects colourless.