His base res is 29
Fury: 32
+10 --> 36
Marriage --> 38
Owl fx +ally support --> 46
Distant Defense seal --> 52
Res tactic --> 58
And Doesn't his weapon also debuff?
But if you gave him an owl spell with +4 res, it could be 62, but that seems needless lol.
He has low hp so fury might hurt his tanking capabilities a bit, and he has inflict -7atk to the enemy with the highest attack at the start of the turn
Something like atk/res bond would be perfect for him and work well with his weapons owltome effect mirror stance from morag would be good too, or swift sparrow if you wanna attack more
His new refine gives him another option but it's still got big competition in blade tome which is probably still better in general, outside of specific team comps.
Would you rather debuff or straight up kill? Blade tome has better offensive presence and his new tome has better utility.
So yeah, I don't think he got "better" but he definitely has another good option now.
As someone who has replaced Nino with Soren a while ago, it’s quite hard to give up on his bladetome build. Mine is currently +4 merged (5 more 4-star ones are waiting for feathers so I could merge those as well). I love him. I don’t really know if it’s worth switching his build now, for me at least. I might give him a second build just in case, but a bladetome is still better on him in my opinion.
He finally fills a different niche, which is *really* nice. The owl tome refinement was unexpected, but the chill attack effect is REALLY nice. I'd say it's comparable to a blade tome, perhaps slightly more versatile since he could easily run close counter now and be effective on both phases.
A Close defense seal + defense tactic/spur/drive + rally def can easily get a neutral Soren to 29DEF, 33 with one adjacent ally with support. 33 speed becomes 37, and 46 attack becomes 50 with the same placement. The chill attack effect also means that his defense could potentially be treated as 40, or you could swap close defense for heavy blade and the attack could be read as 57 for fast charging. You can also pair him with L!Ike for 59 on that heavy blade.
But even then if you don't refine for the Owl effect, you basically have an upgraded Rexcalibur+ with Chill Attack; the stats are identical. I was happy to ditch the +2 SPD boost from my Rexcalibur refinement for the Owl effect though.
I mean, yes he does require some slight placement trickery to unlock his full buffs, but I think it's a little easier and less situational than running a blade+buffer team. Plus he becomes less of a glass canon. Yes Boey could run something similar with Gronnowl+, but even refined, the Wind Brand has 2-4 more might (depending on refinement).
Generally agreed except for the last part, it is easier to run blade tome because his job is to clear the field in 1 turn generally, just pair him with a dancer and take out whatever units you need to before cleaning up the rest. -7 atk debuff wouldn't even matter at that point, especially with desperation. It doesn't get simpler than that.
Owl tome requires constant positioning (can't really use dancer to full effect until the end), and the debuff isn't gonna matter most of the time. In FEH you really only want to attack when you have advantage, so you're usually just gonna take them out quickly and sustain little damage either way. I'm not saying its worthless but this new tome isn't that much better than plain old owl tome (which is a good tome).
The Owl tome might just match my play style better. I've always found Nino kind of painful to use (and I have a blade build on my same Soren too, so I've tried it with both). I don't care much for always needing a dancer and one-rounding is overkill for me for everything except ridiculous Chain challenges. I mean, that's the only place where I've found a noticeable difference in performance for a blade tome of any kind (cavalry/fliers notwithstanding).
So yeah, this is why I said he fills a different niche now rather than claim his new tome is suddenly better than bladetomes. I guess I'm just not suited towards glass cannons. I like luring+bombing instead of buff+sweeping. But again, that's why I'm glad about this refinement because the niche is totally different and options are great (especially in the new map modes). :D
That is way too many steps to be considered "Amazing." You're relying on a lot of variables to make this astronomical res happen, meanwhile he still has no HP or defense so he'll just get his doors blown down by anything that isn't magic. Hypothetical scenarios are all well and good but it's a lot of commitment for lower output than other choice units. I think the owl tome refinement was ultra disappointing, and chill attack is the only saving grace. But even at that point I'd still rather have my meta call Raven tome so I can have a consistent cavalry check.
Glad I'm not the only one that was disappointed that his refinement was just an Owltome. I was kinda wishing he'd get something new. Chill Attack is really the only reason why I'd use Soren's tome, and he gets that with the non-refined version... so, to me, there really is no reason to use Dew to refine a weapon that gives an effect that I honestly don't want.
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