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Should you always expect Quickened Moonbow?

Quickened Moonbow Reinhardt, specifically.

A friend was obssesed and always assuming he came with that. Should be fairly common, but is it as much to say like 80-90% of them will be carrying that? Heavy Blade looks better...

Asked by Nogitsune6 months 3 weeks ago
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Most of the Reinhardt's I see use Quickened Pulse + Moonbow, but there have been 'a few' that would use something else, like Blarowl + Close Counter, or something else.

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its easily countered if you invest in the deflect magic seal or have a green tank with guard and these still have their uses without a qp moonbow reinhardt present

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I'm debating what is the best meassure against both, Lyn and Reinhardt. Guard is a lot stronger against Reinhardt, but it's likely costing a QR B-slot, which means no Distant Def Seal (since you need QR to kill, as a slow tank).

I'm also looking into Dull Ranged, but apparently it's basically the same to have Atk Ploy (-5 vs. -6, "big difference"). Guard means no Moonbow.

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If it's a dedicated B.Lyn+Reinhardt shutdown, use bowbreaker. Good down to 50% HP instead of 70% and Reinhardt gets doubled by everything that survives. Also, you throw B.Lyn's speed out the window, including any cavalry buffs

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Knocks you below 50%, or KOs? If you're trying to shut down precisely these two units I'm looking at green raven mages who will stay above 50% after a QP moonbow.

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by Seeker 6 months 3 weeks ago

Definitely be ready for QP moonbow, so I guess assume it. You can't afford not to be ready for it, so even if you don't expect it 100% of the time (I've seen some people use atk+3, which is also good but significantly less dangerous) assume it's coming.

I would say heavy blade is unreliable unless you have +atk IV (and not everybody does) and hone calvary is on, which isn't too reliable on arena defense but probably fine if you're personally in control.

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Personally I never found him to be that much of a threat but then again I do build teams with some way to shut down both Reinhardt and B!Lyn.

Raven Adept builds like Inigo and Spring Camilla flatten them. DD9 Guard Towers flatten Reinhardt but Lyn can occasionally survive.

Short version is there's plenty of ways to either play around his presence or destroy him one sidedly. The one that's scarier but you never see is Quad Thunder Olwen with Luna.

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With L&D she's in OHKO territory, so unless she can activate desperation, lightning breath Fae should bust her after the first double-tap easily. Nowi might or might not depending on merges, IV, and build. Hardin seems to have her OHKO'd. Ice mirror Fjorm would do the same probably even if Olwen uses swift sparrow instead of L&D, so that poses an issue, Fjorm being so common.

Another option is try to catch her without a hone cavalry and block the quad. Two strikes will hurt but looks tankable.

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That's because she's pretty much dead after one round of combat due to her low HP and low defense/resistance. Ardent Sacrifice helps get in Desperation range, but it's fairly easy to bait units when they're in the hands of the AI.

This Olwen is, in my opinion, fairly easy to bait. Reinhardt, on the other hand, takes a bit more since most have Lancebreaker, causing my Donnel to completely just.. die. xD

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