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The red hell is real.

I kind of went with full summons and got punished severely by the red hell. I mean, there are definitely some good heroes that deserve the 5 star exclusive status, but I had the "luck" to get Luke, Karel and Katarina.
They are fine, but they are definitely not bridal Tharja.

I believe there is not a reason anymore to keep them as 5 star summonable. But then again, it would only further fill the 3/4 star red pool, which is literall hell and it's impossible to get units like Hinata.

Do you believe there's a way to not overburden the red summoning pool with either meaningless 5 star units and/or too many 3/4 units?

Asked by Guts7 months 1 week ago
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I mean, they need to stop releasing new red units, honestly. I feel like they're determined to stack the red pool and keep other colors rare instead of just balancing them, and I honestly don't know why.

At the very least, they need to give us an additional unit, preferably green or even colorless, who has Fury 3 at 4*. The fact that it's this hard to get Hinata really sucks.

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by Rassim 7 months 2 weeks ago

It's just the luck man, those guys do take some space in the 5 stars pool, but that's the cost for wanting the unit you really want. At least you get better luck since with the banner you get 50% of chance (depending if there's like 1 of the unit in this banner that is the only red like B!Tharja) so just don't give up.

Anyway, I got a B!Ninian +Spe-Res on my free summon so I'm okay with that. So yeah just don't give up.

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My point is not about luck or giving up. It's about the fact that the red pool is totaly overpopulated to a point where even the 3/4 pool is hell.

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Too many 3*-4* red has already become by my bane, I need 5 Firs for merging but haven't summoned her since. It doesn't help now that with Genealogy banner gone, pulled 2 Ares thankfully, I don't particularly like the 5* red focus units currently to even bother summoning on red currently. Maybe when I eventually summon on red if Fir continues to allude me at least my Ares luck might continue with his demotion.

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I feel like they wouldn't really be that bad as 3/4 star units if IS decided to give them good skills available at 4 stars. If Katarina had Swift Sparrow, Luke had Panic ploy, and Karel had Desperation (So Shanna isn't the only one anymore), then it would be very welcome. It seems the the only incredibly desired fodder in red and Hinata, and (To an extent) Selena, so some better red fodder would be nice. But of course, it's IS, so we'd probably get Attack ploy, Fire boost, and Defiant Attack.

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I mean 4* available Attack Ploy in the regular pool would still be pretty nice, Fire Boost and Defiant Attack yeah not quite as nice. But I'd kinda prefer they stay 5* for now as my quest to get 5 more Firs has already been bad enough, but that's probably just my curse right now since I actually want her unlike most people...

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I've had the inverse red hell issue lately, a distinct lack of red orbs. There were more circles lacking reds than blues/greens for me.

The only way to try and fix the summoning pool would be to split it down even further to give each weapon rather than just the overall colour and preferably a back out option if none of the orbs you want are there without having to spend 5 and risk your pity rate. It's unlikely but I'd like a clue to the rarity of the unit before summoning, maybe 5*s would give a golden aura to the orb and you can then decide whether to summon on it if it's not a colour you're actively pulling.

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Honestly, there are a good number of red 5 star units that could be demoted. Luke has Panic Ploy, which is the only thing keeping him at 5 star, but outside of that he isn't that good. I feel like Gray could also be demoted, since none of his skills are particularly noteworthy. Karel has become much more powerful since he got his Nameless Blade, so he can stay there probably.

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Using 45 free orbs, I spent 35 to get Shiro and then another 9 to pull Bridal Tharja.

If you think red hell is real, you are sorely mistaken.

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You are missing the point tho. Your case was just about luck. But the case where there are too many red units across all rarities is an undisputable fact and that was the point of my post. On the other hand, the blue 5 star and even 4 star pool is not that bloated and is sort of reliable to summon from, at least it should be statistically safer than red.

After these objective measures is where luck comes in and can influence absolutely everything of course.

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