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PSA for the FEH msg board community

I'm reposting these posts I had with Master Salt earlier this morning on a thread someone made asking if a +atk -res Lilina was good enough to merge. Right now that thread is already drowned out with the incoming traffic of similar questions about ivs and what they should do with themselves.. Im guessing only a few people got to see this because obviously more than 50% of the topics here are about ivs, pushing down the few good topics I saw here like comparing (Wahlmart? Wahlhart?) to Frederick, thoughts on the Askr trios' refinements, or the upcoming ugly changes to the requirements in tier 20 Arena. I hope others will get the idea there's a lot more to this FEH gamepress site besides the msg boards that is all found in the extensive work the moderators put into researching these units. You can call me a dick, whatever, but hopefully this will kinda thin out the redundant questions that has been plaguing the q&a/ msg boards and allow more interesting topics and discussions to be seen

Asked by DISTANT COUNTER5 months 1 week ago

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Unfortunately, I don't know anyone of the sort here. I don't even know if they even participate in the message boards, based on their history--only the Heroes analysis.

The fact that they're using gamepress at all for anything other than quick access to what IVs a unit has already puts 99% of this sites userbase as shitters that will never get past tier 17. Complaining about it like pissing in an ocean of piss. Nothing anyone can do will keep people from by and large being stupid and doing stupid things, like following tier lists, putting fury and moonbow of everything, or using cavs.

Complaining about it wont make people stop, people will only stop when they have a moment of clarity and realize this site is garbage for basically everything other than being a IV referral.

First of all, I find your perspective very cynical. A lot of the regulars have expressed frustration and seem more ready to see improvement than you. Well, I guess I understand? I tend to be at least a bit cynical myself sometimes.

Second, using horses is not stupid. People clear so much PvE content with them because it really works.

My last point: there's a lot of garbage in the analysis on character's pages, but there are some decent ideas on there. If you know how to take the "recommended" builds and IVs as just someone else's idea, the nonsense that gets published along with actually good ideas is more of an annoyance than an insult.

Never said I want to make people stop I'm just saying what's on my mind. If people here can complain about crap ivs or pity rates, what's wrong with complaining about this

After the discussion that's happened so far, there are a couple of things I'd like to either rehash/summarize or add.

1. Frustration being what it is, it is best if we can respect people who post their redundant IV questions, encourage them to do their own work. If they refuse, I think it is enough to let them know that we are annoyed and leave it at that. The point is not to hate on them; we can do that amongst ourselves if we really feel the need. Ideally, we want them to become strong enough to start thinking for themselves and figuring things out for themselves.

2. There needs to be some kind of page on dealing with suboptimal IVs. For what's been published on this site so far, I don't want to leave it to the usual writers to do it, so I think we should write one ourselves and start referring people to it whenever we get questions about IVs. It should cover, among other things: the psychological aspect of pulling bad IVs and working with them, evaluating the IV for what the numbers are rather than what the boon or bane is, examples of awkward but not terrible IVs (ex: -atk +spd on offensive units), examples of IVs people think are terrible which are actually good if you use them right (ex: +def LA Lyn), examples of IVs that are very difficult to work with (ex: -atk Caeda), suggestions for adjusting to IVs (exploiting the boons, preventing the banes from killing the effectiveness of the unit), and maybe at the end, the mistake of dismissing units prematurely just on boons and banes.

3. I've had on my mind for some time that I might like to start a FEH website and blog - but this is very much on hold with the recent announcement of the arena scoring downgrade. If I think the game is going in very much the wrong direction, which is what it looks like, I don't feel inclined to invest. However, if things look like they might improve, I could reconsider. I'm wondering if others might like to help.

2. The only method of dealing with "bad" IV's is a matter of being creative, which isn't easily taught to people. For example, +hp -atk neph, while most people would see something abhorrent like wrath fodder, I see as a potential self reliant wall, and giving her a carrot lance lets her have extra self healing capabilities, while an hp seal lets her have a large hp pool to keep guard active for as long as possible, while brazen def/res lets her stay alive as long as possible until aether can pop off to do more healing.

When you have people stuck in the mindset of "HURR GOTTA HAVE 60 SPD AND 80 ATK WITH A BRAVE WEAPON AN USE AETHER EVERY ATTACK" you get idiots that cry about things instead of finding a way to work with them.

Ok, I'll admit that's a pretty good fix for that iv, you should help us out too

Nilla#5478 Theres my discord tag.

I would definitely be up to helping out with a separate forum if you ever decide to do it and im sure a lot of others here would too

Distant Counter thanks for your support, but we have two potential issues besides my reservations about where the game is going:
1. I never imagined setting up a forum, only a blog and growing set of guide pages. If you know how to set up a forum I might be able to do some of the moderating. I know almost zero about web programming; when I said set up a site, I was thinking to use Wix or WordPress, and people can discuss in the comments if they want and see our replies.
2. You're very enthusiastic, but I'm not yet convinced whether others want to put in the time and energy to help us build a site. If I feel well enough about the idea we can get started and let others join, but for now it's still a question in my mind whether anyone else in this thread is eager enough to jump on board and invest.

In any case, before I commit myself to building a site I'm going to see what "forging bonds" is about (if it's worse than all the expressions of attachment we get from fictional characters I will be somewhat deterred) and what happens with this projected arena score downgrade and how the meta shift.