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Omega HM Farming doesn't work as easily anymore, they changed the start units, find a new method.

Asked by Nilla4 months 1 week ago

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lol that was a cheeky move by IS. But we'll find a way.

It's not that the method doesn't¨work so easily, it just doesn't work at all now.

I think that it's nearly impossible to auto-battle it without sacrificing someone or doing some weird galeforce stuff. Once a flier passes over the wall, he'll have 3 people ganged up on him. If you manage to survive the entire weapon triangle, you'll have no space for your WoM units, because the enemies are so tightly packed together and if you kill one of them on turn 1, a new guy (Legault) will spawn. It is possible to do when you brute force it on your own, but the auto-battle AI just shits itself,

This is why I macro, I can do things and get suitable results without relying on auto battle.

Knowing the Community someone will Make up a Solution within the hour. I mean when this Map first came out someone already made up a solution within an hour.

Yup, there is a solution already. It requires one unit to die and a galeforce lancer tho (just as I thought). There is also a high-investment solution, which doesn't require a sacrifice, but is far too specific and expensive to build.

Raul already has a system down that can do it without a death.

Well, that'll work for your macro shenanigans, but the auto-battle AI would never do this.

That why macroing is better, and arguably faster if youve got the precision to quickly and accurately move units around while its recording movements.

I would try to find one myself but I'm not so versed with having to think about move orders and whatnot.

I seem to be getting the same units every time... Dunno what's going on with you. Not sure why you're attempting to OF on this weeks Rival Battle, it's too complex and long that you may as well stick with the GHBs.

Before they swapped the unit I was finishing them in two turns, with a total of 22 seconds per round. It wasnt complex at all.

*Shrug* I'll stick with my basic farming on GHBs. They can't really modify those at this point.

Grinding - farming hero feather this way shouldn't be possible.
It's an exploit, absolutely not interesting.
They sould reward SKILL not farm of money.
Even the new 21 rank in arena is a shame. Whale rank. You pay you win.

Sorry for my precious words. But that's what i hate in gacha/idle games. When you pay or farm, it should only be for cosmetics, visual skins that don't affect stats (accessories is ok).
And don't tell me F2P don't help to sustain the game. I would be glad to pay 50 box for the while game without in game payment. But it's gacha...

>Even the new 21 rank in arena is a shame. Whale rank. You pay you win.
You're just a fucking sore loser that can't git gud so you blame others.

I mean, as much as I disagree with that guy as well, I have to say that you are even worse, by being needlessly rude while putting yourself on your imaginary pedestal and stroking your ego at the same time.

I work for my wins and climb the ladder, this guy sits in his puddle of tears complaining about how others actually try. He's got a shit attitude about effort, compared to him, I deserve my pedestal.

It's a casual mobile game, not an esports title. Get off your high horse already...I doubt that anybody can take you seriously.

No.

I thought I remembered you from somewhere.

Yep, thats me.

You are on the 21 ladder. Without buying orbs. Ok, well done, bravo.
The majority of players who reach this step are not F2P. Period.
You don't need to be rude. I give my opinion. You disagree. Ok. Let's discuss. Btw i'm a human, like you i guess. So keep calm.

But don't you think there is a big problem with arena ranks ? You need to play full +10 units, with some special skills (double rally ? really ? ) to get the score max. Why ? They should reward exotic skills. Why a +10 wrys don't get you the same amount of score than a +10 zelgius ?
And to max out your units to +10, the easy way is to farm or to purchase orbs. I don't think it's rewarding

>You are on the 21 ladder. Without buying orbs. Ok, well done, bravo.
I buy orbs whenever I want, usually when theres good fodder up, and I work my ass off for the money to be able to do so.

>The majority of players who reach this step are not F2P. Period.
The majority of players, period, don't have the ability to think and save for the future and upgrade every ghb and tempest trial reward to 5 stars right away instead of saving and upgrading their favorites.

>You don't need to be rude. I give my opinion.
You barged in and went off on a tangent about whales instead of sticking to the topic of grinding.

>But don't you think there is a big problem with arena ranks ?
Not at all, the higher the rank you are the easier it is because everyone else runs armors, which are easy to kill.

> You need to play full +10 units, with some special skills (double rally ? really ? ) to get the score max.
Neither of these are true at all, this picture is my team. You don't need full 5+10s at all, unless youre running ranged units or cavs, you dont even need dual rallies unless your score really sucks.

Why a +10 wrys don't get you the same amount of score than a +10 zelgius ?
Because of base stat total, can't even use the rarity argument because shit like soleil has boosted bst and is 4 star available, along with dragons.

>They should reward exotic skills.
Score is calculated by SP cost, and "exotic" is just a term used to refer to skills rarely used, it means literally nothing because the metagame could be using a completely different skill set and you could just complain about lack of exotic skills.

>And to max out your units to +10, the easy way is to farm or to purchase orbs.
This is half bullshit. You need orbs to get units to merge anyway regardless of rarity level, and HM just gives people a method of getting feathers through work instead of only arena and quests. What, you wanna go back to the dark days where hero merit wasn't a thing and the only method of getting reasonably quick feathers was sending shit home? Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit, you work, you get rewarded, thats how life works in feh, thats how life works in real life, usually.

I work my ass off 5 days a week to afford to build my units the way I want, then shitters like you come in complaining about people whaling, when way more often than not, those whales had to work to get that money to spend on a bunch of jay pegs of girls wearing provocative clothing. They work to support their hobby, what do you do? You sit there, whining about how others care more about the game than you do, attempting to invalidate their efforts, all because you're too lazy to put forth the effort yourself.

Guys, did you notice that he works hard to get money? I just thought that he didn't mention it enough times, so I'm putting it here as a reminder, that he works really hard and puts a lot of effort in it, in order to get money, not like other people in the world, who don't do anything.

Wow, what a special snowflake you are.

You're goddamn right.

we get it, you work hard. lol
just stop acted like you're the center of the world

Never, i'm the center of my world, but whose to say everyone else in it isn't just an NPC put there so that I don't know i'm alone in the universe? Whose to say you're the the only sentient thing in the universe and everyone and everything else is just an AI put in place by skynet robots from the future to steal your lucky charms when your not looking?

Hahahaha

Oh no. He's on to us D:.

While i don't really agree with his perspective, there is no reason for you to call people sore loser like that just to looked though, buddy

That's just salty, for people who spend money for the game should obviously get some benefit in the game. You can ge in t21 even if you were f2p, spending money in a game has to have a reason. Why do you have so much problem if people spend time to farm feathers, it's not like you gain less.
I just can't understand people who say: "it's not fair if you do that" if they gain or lose anything from that, it's just stupid.
I'm sorry for the rant but i had to get that out

See, thing is, I work a part time job specifically so I can whale on feh if a unit i like shows up. When nephenee was added to the game, I got her to 5+8 on her very first banner by scrubbing toilets seven nights a week. When Bridal sanaki was introduced, I was washing dishes for four hours a day, and then when the resturant shut down for the night, deck scrubbing a kitchen at the resturant for the remaining four hours, five nights a week. Today I got a 5% raise, the highest allowed by company policy, which my boss had to go to the regional manager to request on my behalf. I work my ass off so I can get the things I want, instead of crying about shit.

That's your right, i don't blame you. You put your money wherever you want. And guess what, i work too !
The point is, it's realllly hard to reach this 21 rank if you don't purchase orbs to max out your units. If you did not purchase orbs, you won't get your fav units at +10. And you won't be at this 21 rank. That's all.

In fact, everyone play his way. Some dudes wants to unlock every characters available. Others want to stay in the high level arena rank. Others love mind challenge (like the new mode with specific characters to use).
But farming isn't playing. It's just boring

Honestly, this game needed something like HM farming, in all games there is something you gain when you pass time farming, something that FEH didn't have before HM farming was a thing. You don't know how much time it took to have my first +10 unit, just because arena was the only reliable way to get orbs and sometimes an event to speed up things. Now that HM farming is possible i can have merge projects to stay competitive while having fun building other units.

I play another gacha game, Monster super league, and its got a method of farming their equivalent of orbs, so you could literally just grind all day and do a full summon three or four times per day, everyday, if you really wanted to.

Wow this really turned into a shitstorm

I'll admit I've had my share of calling him out and attacking him one on one before, maybe even going overboard one time (sorry about that Nilla), but I agree with some of the things he says sometimes (not on here) even though he is toxic with how he says stuff. In some weird way, I feel bad for him and this whole thing looks like the outspoken trash talking kid getting ganged on by the rest of the class.. but at the same time.. I don't blame anyone for getting irritated by his attitude. Maybe it's best for everyone to stop, it's getting a little over the top now

I don't even know who you are or why you're trying to apologize, I don't pay attention to peoples names here because its retarded and gets in the way of discussion when people try to hold grudges, i'm sure ive said this at least three other times.

Yea you have said that before, I remember. I didn't need you to accept anything, I'm just saying it for the sake of saying it. And yes you have a point with that

See the problem with the internet is people don't learn to get over anything, tommorrow i'm gonna wake up, not remembering anything that happened tonight, partially because i'm still drunk, but also because it doesnt matter and its the internet, meanwhile half the shits that were here are gonna hold a grudge of some kind and drag it everywhere like that one guy that I guess gave up.

Don't worry, you are not as important as you see yourself being, and I highly doubt, that anyone would hold a grudge against you. It was just an argument over how egotistical you are, and that whole thing left everyone's mind as soon as they left the thread. Hardly anybody will care to remember you or your name, because it's the internet afterall.

Well, one thing for sure that everyone will remember, is that he's gonna be Great Summoner in tier 21

It's advertised all over the threads

Damn, you are actually right. That will haunt us forever.

Wow that’s a fucking dick move on IS’s part, just leave it in there; If people, including myself, want to slave away most of their day clearing a single map over and over and over again, then just let them. They didn’t send a notification either. At the very least just give me compensation orbs for killing one of the only efficient ways of HM farming.

Indeed. It was really sneaky from them, changing it without a single word...kind of a backstab to be honest.

Guess i'll go back with GHB

so they DON'T want us to farm it? why bother updating rival domains then?