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Pallas refine is still garbage.

I've used palla as a mainstay on my arena team since the very first brave heroes release, she is the only unit that has never left my arena core for any reason. And ruby sword is terrible on her.

Way back during my days as a 712-724 player, i ran into a team I thought would be super easy, sat my palla down in front of a brave ike, next thing i know palla is nearly dead. Check ike's skills, cancel affinity. One skill straight up fucks an entire weapon up completely, i had to rely on a galeforce steady blow alfonse to get a flawless victory. All because of one skill. And now that shits coming right back. Tadept as an A slot is fine, but locking it into a weapon is cancer because it forces that unit to just be a hard counter to one thing instead of a rounded out counter to multiple things. It completely kills creative freedom.

Asked by Nilla3 weeks ago
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The TA base ability is definitely a big disappointment. What do you think about using CA herself? It's really dull to have to sacrifice your own B-slot but I think she's good (not necessarily optimal, but good) with it

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This clearly isn't the weapon you're looking for (Since the base sucks and the refine doesn't fit your team) so just continue Smashing them armors! Seriously, neither things work in your favor so it's not really that bad - it saves you dew, because for you it's not really even worth trying out.

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And? The Killer and Armor effectiveness effects on Catria and Est's weapons kill creative freedom too, in a sense. They all have one base effect, which is limiting in itself.

Also, of the four possible colors to be involved in the triangle, TriAdept effects typically only change 1 match-up out of 4 for the worse. The match-up would still be the same against their own color and Colorless. With the other two:
- One match-up is made even better (with triangle advantage)
- This leaves one color: The color that they have a disadvantage against. Realistically, most units aren't going to be gods against all four colors. They're going to have a weakness, so instead play to their strengths. TriAdept or not, her effect refine leaves Palla better off than most other TriAdept users in that she has the Triangle Attack to her benefit. She's fine.

Edit: Might I add that many units aren't tailored to be equally as effective regardless of team comp. By that reasoning, Catria and Est are equally as useless as they also cannot benefit from their refine's effect on a Tactics team.

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I used to be able to let her 1v1 blues all the time because her balanced stat line let her handle basically everything except archers, now shes limited to dealing with greens, because shes not doing shit to reds without specials, armor effectiveness, wrath. Every single other option she has access to is better than tadept.

Edit: Titania gets a pass at it because she also runs a tactic, which benefits everything except other horses.

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Good lord, does your bitch parade never end?

Guard/Steady Stance 4/Candy Axe fuck up Slaying Edge and Wo Dao. Svalinn Shield fucks up Armorsmasher. Grani's Shield fucks up Zanbato. Narrow counter skills exist, and sometimes people use them. BTW, Cancel Affinity only changes the matchup to neutral, as if Brave Ike had a sword instead of an axe. If that's enough to make Palla almost dead, I question whether she should be tanking anything.

Not that any of this matters for arena. Unless Palla happens to be your bonus unit, she shouldn't be doing combat in the first place.

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