First off to the guy that posted earlier. You my sir are blind. Lyn got as much hate as Camilla, and Lucina got alot of hate as well (she was slightly less deserving since she had not had an alt this year). But look at it this way, just to boil it down to Fates baby's who are wondering why the hate, and I'm normally the guy that says that we need to understand popularity
We have 5 fucking Lyn's and 5 fucking Camilla's.
We have gotten 3 Camilla Alts this year, fucking 3! Two of those could have been more deserving characters that fit the lore and added to the game. We got Mikoto, who fits the Fates DLC for Lost in Waves (I've played Fates too much), and I know for a fact Arette, Azura's mom makes a helluva lot more sense. Like, for crying out loud, do we really need a 5th Camilla that doesn't even fit story wise into a DLC?
Second of All. You claim Lyn had no hate. But the verbal fanbase has hated the 5 Lyn alts, Camilla and Lucina alts since they passed 3, bitching about it non stop. I can compreehend popularity. But forgive my understanding that Camilla is not the most popular female in the series. At all. So there is literally no reason to have a 5th goddamn Camilla, who isn't even Camilla mind you, given the story implications of her even being there.
This is by no means salt. I honestly don't care for the alts in this game half the time unless they're units I want, in which case I ignore them. But to those saying that the Camilla hate is unfounded.
All the other high alt owners have gotten their shit. It's Camilla's turn to get shit for literally stealing a spot on what could have been a better story unit, or better yet, not another Camilla. You've gotten New Years and Summer Camilla, I'm just astounded that anyone can defend 3 alts of the same characters in a goddamn year.
Not even Lucina, the poster girl for the game that literally saved IS" skin has that many Alts. So I'd let that sink in for a bit before you go saying that you don't understand Camilla's hate.
Camilla's been hated by the FEH community way before this Camilla was even conceived. It's not about being blind in this case.
Lyn was hated because she got the 5th alt, same with Lucina. Camilla is from Fates, and because of that she already gets hated. This pretty much just fueled fire.
Also, we have 5 Lucina's. Masked Marth, Lucina, Brave Lucina, Bunny Lucina, and Legendary Lucina.
Yes I know. I believe I mentioned Lucina.
Furthermore, you're kinda wrong. Fates and Awakening, anything post Radiant Dawn has earned stark hate from the older fans (most of them back in the old days) and stark love from the newer fans.
Furthermore, Lucina got shit one, yes. But think of it this way. She got her alts with alot of time inbetween. Masked Marth which is free, we all got her early on. The other 3 were in the first year, nobody liked it and they stopped until the second year where they gave us Legendary Lucina almost a year after her last alt (Brave Cina to be precise). Even if your logic is solid, you're not accounting for the time between alts.
Camilla has however had 3 alts this year counting Adrift Camilla, the same can be said for Lyn who has now had Bridal and Legendary. Simply put, they all get hate. Some less so, some more so.
I've been around since before Awakening was released (I only watched FE Games then, didnt own a Wii or anything to play RD or POR on. But yes, both games earned alot of hate. Awakening had alot of it early on, and I mean alot.But yeah, I was an Awakening baby if you will and I saw alot of hate for that game. Far too much to be honest.
Awakening lost the limelight and grew kinder to the older fans (IE they stopped bashing on it) right around when Fates came out since, well, yeah. Fates.
My opinion on Fates, incase you're wondering"
Comparing it to the others, yes it did get more hate for its change in gameplay, it's lackluster story, the way your character is treated like Jesus(most anyone can and will die for you or love you even if you betray them. Takumi in Conquest is a great example) "
I went off tangent there for a bit XD
Charlottw may have more development, but that also makes her more rigid.
You don't have to have a perfectly defined character development all the time. Not to mention if they leave out certain elements you get to impose your own thought on how the character feels or acts in certain sinarios. This can make characters more appealing to some, rather than just rigid bricks that you have a hard time conecting with.
So, having Camilla literally want in your pants 24/7 leads to good character development?
Excuse me for not noticing but, I don't think having somebody want in your pants is a good enough character trait to make her likeable. Unless that's all you'r elooking for in a character.
Dude. I've played FE:F. I've played every FE and read every support for each character.
I know what her character does. But even then, it doesn't help that her major traits are "I like Corrin" and "Corrin is my reason to live".
She borderline gives up when you're near her at all times in Fates if I'm not mistaken. Her supports with you in Fates is her trying to get you to bathe with her. I'm not saying its "I want dick" all the time. But her attitude and reasoning for being so attached to Corrin feel like that.
But it's not? You just said in a post a bit lower than Loki has more reasons for liking the Summoner than Camilla does for liking Corrin, and that compared to Charlotte, she has no reason to act the way she does.
"Hell I think Loki has more reason to want in your pants, and her reasons are chaos and power. It's sad to say that a character as shallow as Loki has more reason to want the Summoner than Camilla has for wanting Corrin."
Lolwut
Well, yes. Camilla never explains her want for Corrin. It's a given trait (unless you can remind me of something I missed, which you have yet to do). A given trait doesn't make it better. If there was a reason, perhaps she was lonely until Corrin and her became friends (would make sense give how she was treated by her many other concubine siblings) or any other reason, she'd have a grander reason and I'd give you the point here.
However, she has none. She simply wants Corrin.
Loki however, being as shallow as she is, has her reasons. She wants the summoner for the power he possesses, as shown by her interest in taking the Breidablik from him in the confession scene. She wants to cause Chaos, this is shallow, but it gives her a different reason for wanting him, power.
Camilla wants because she wants. Loki wants for power. There's a stark difference between what we know from the info given, and what we dont know, given that we just see Camilla want Corrin for whatever reason.
Seriously. If you can post something here that can prove hat Camillas love for Corrin, that goes beyond brotherly bonds and what not, has a reeason behind it, like inside of Fates itself, I'll give you props and be done with this. Otherwise, she's worse than Loki, who has at least 1 shallow reason, which is better than nonee.
"Such behavior does have a reason, as many of her supports shows that Camilla's nature comes from the horrible experiences from her past and lack of maternal love in her life, admitting to Niles when he confronts her about such things, explaining her overprotective, smothering attitude towards the Avatar is because she knows what it's like to be alone, and doesn't want the Avatar to ever feel what she felt growing up. But it doesn't mean her fawning is entirely reserved for the Avatar alone; she is known to treat her younger siblings as if they were her children, although at a level that is not intense as the one that she adopts in her treatment of the Avatar. Her supports with Leo is a case in point, where she, despite acknowledging his battle prowess, refers to him as her beloved "baby brother".
What? Didn't you say I had no knowledge of Fates since I apparently didn't get her? I'm not here to start a fight, I'm genuinely curious. If you want to tell me that I'm wrong, then go ahead and show me the support that explains why she dotes on him.
The closest we get is Camilla telling Niles she was lonely as a kid and that she wants love in return. But then again, why only Corrin if that's her entire reason for being that way?
Simply put, if you're gonna say I'm wrong, then just show me what I forgot. It's easier than telling me that I don't know what I'm saying and writing
"lolwut" like someone who doesn't know how to drive a point home.
I said that it was evident that you didn't have much knowledge of her since you said that Loki had more reason than Camilla did.
Lolwut was expressing my confusion on how anyone can say that Loki, of all people, has a better reason than Camilla, when she doesn't. I don't mind people disliking her, and if you're gonna talk down to her then I wouldn't care, but I get defensive when people say that she has no reason for being the way she is when she actually does.
Disliking for character flaws is one thing, but disliking because of misunderstandings something completely different.
What is there to misunderstand?
Her entire character reason is to dote on him cause she feels lonely. That is the exact problem If she's lonely she'd search for love anywhere when she clearly doesn't. If she wanted love she'd search elsewhere given taht Corrin at first isn't into it, it's just asinine to give them a trait and then narrow it down to a specific person if all they want is something as simple as love. She'd make more sense as a female Inigo for crying out loud.
And I know alot of Camilla. As I've said. Ive read every support, played Fates far too much considering how much I leave it to gather dust nowadays.
Not to mention you're getting defensive over something I'm not wrong about. If she has a reason for being the way she is to Corrin, the root of the problem, that's explained and not a generalized need for love tuned into a single person, negating her entire need for love at a wider base, which is easier to find and fit's her criteria of I feel alone/need love, then sure, why not, I don't know jack. But I know well enough to have read her supports before hating on her. And in all of them, she acts mostly the same, and she tends to simply dote on him instead of finding that "love" she craves or filling out that "loneliness".
"That is the exact problem If she's lonely she'd search for love anywhere when she clearly doesn't. If she wanted love she'd search elsewhere given taht Corrin at first isn't into it.."
Her finding love wasn't even.... My point. Nevermind. I'll just agree to disagree. I'm on my phone and I'm tired of going through tabs to copy and paste, lol.
Ehh I found her better.
Camilla wants your dick for what, just cause? She has no reason!
Charlotte however wants to give her poor parents back in Norh's capitol some cash so they aren't poor anymore.
One has a reason for being the way she is and even acts differently.
Camilly acts all dominatrix and her only trait is "I like Corrin."
I am completely fine with alts, so long as its seasonal units.
I'm just really sad that we are getting three non-seasonal alts, I love watching a banner video and see what new and fresh characters are coming to heroes, and what new skills they bring to the table, but seeing a banner of three alts is just disappointing.
Absolutely yes. Whereas it could be Arete or Sumeragi, it is another FUCKING Camilla.
I don't give a shit about her character because she is already shallow and boring in the main game. The only reason IS milks her so much is that she is just a pure fanservice BITCH, nothing more, nothing less. Believe me when I say, while I don't like her, I still have respect if someone does. But also believe me when I say, things have really gone too far this time.
But maybe ppl won't slam her too much as they did with Lyn or Lucina. Because they (or maybe just her fanboys?) only care about the fanservice, while Lyn and Lucina are truly good characters (just IS brought hate toward them).
Yet there is also bright side for anyone who is mad at this. We can save more orbs for not having to worry about pulling that unit. Cheer up, guys.
I do agree with you. Maybe a bit less name calling, but I do agree wholeheartedly. I dont mind alts in seasonals and LHB's (since those are mandatory), but by God we don't need 5 Camillas when all she does is want in your pants.
Hell I think Loki has more reason to want in your pants, and her reasons are chaos and power. It's sad to say that a character as shallow as Loki has more reason to want the Summoner than Camilla has for wanting Corrin 24/7 XD
I didn't play fates, so I don't know how Camilla is in that game. I like her because she was my first 4* unit (I had no idea about rerolling when I started to play) but that's just the axe Camilla in particular- I'm not her fan as to like every alt she gets, however I'm neither bothered by she getting more alts (by example, I don't care or even slightly dislike M.Corrin, but I guess some people probably like him since he's getting another alt? That's cool, I'll simply won't try to summon him)
In any case, I'm somewhat bothered by she being a red mage since we just got Aversa a bit ago.
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