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New Weapons/Refines You Want to See

Since we get them in 3/4 unit batches these days, post 3/4 units you think need a new weapon or refine or just a unit you love who could be even better with one.

Tana: Vidofnir is essential the lance version of Safeguard but only works when attacked by sword/lance/axe. Refine would broaden that to 'if enemy initiates' with the special refine being Atk Smoke to help her tank multiple hits or maybe Acrobatics for something more interesting to pair with her native Guidance.

Selena: She needs more attack power so having a +10 damage when special triggers would help. Special refine could either be Swift Sparrow, Sturdy Blow or a simple cooldown reduction so my 4*+10 can switch to Ingis for even more damage. There's no existing Fates weapon with anything like that so it'd just have to be 'Selena's Blade'.

Tharja: She's already good but I love her. We have a unique blue and green blades so she'd get the red counterpart. Special refine could either be Atk/Spd Link to match Odin's or Atk/Spd Smoke effect, inspiration for that being her darkness and copying her next life's wife's (my personal cannon, let's not argue) Dark Breath's effect. Let's name it Geotica.

Beruka: She has the up-critical Beruka's Axe named after her in Fates so that usually translate to Heroes as reduced cooldown. Let's add Steady or Sturdy Stance as her special refine. She's another I'm doing as a 4* merge and even at +5 she was key to doing L!Marth's Abyssal mode (with a guide, I'm not that good).

You can probably tell I only really know Awakening and Fates (I've played Echoes too). Let me know what you think of my ideas and what units you'd like to see.

Asked by Galaxia93 months 1 week ago
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by Guts 3 months 2 weeks ago

Seth desperately need help. He's in an extremely overpopulated group (sword cavalry) and the fact that he must depend on inheritable weapons makes him practically unusable when compared to almost every other option, like Ares, Swordhart, Sigurd and others. He was an unstoppable beast in SS, so he deserves some justice in FEH as well.

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by Kaia 3 months 2 weeks ago

Hinata: Could get his Katana from fates where it doubles mt on initiation. So he could have built in death blow 3 and for his refine he could get atk/def bond 2 effect built in his sword.
Lucius: Okay so they did him dirty by making him a healer when his original class is a monk or light mage, so I think he should just get an alt with the Aureola Tome which give +3 res when equipped and does effective damage on dragons. His refine could be a wo dao effect,+10 damage on special proc.

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If Tana gets a refine, I do hope Innes is with her. Since owl effects are populair for refinement, it should be an obvious choice.

A lot of GHB characters fall just short now, and really need a refine.

Berkut getting Kriemhild is the most obvious choice. I'm hoping for something defencive, the weapon in echoes is very defensive as well.

Lyon, and raven tomes in general, need a boost. With Lyon I hope the weapon allows him to tank more in general, like allowing him to deny doubles.

With Katarina's refine, Arvis and Saias do what she does but slightly worse.

Valter should just get Brazen atk/spd on his weapon.

Finally Narcian would be kinda fun. With a right weapon, maybe one that gives a stat boost like Yato, he can be pretty good. He's got allround stats that could go from ehh to yay with the right stuff.

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I want Eliwood and Hector to get refines. Yeah, they can both evolve their weapon, but still. And base Hector already has a good weapon and is a great unit, but I like him, aight?

Eliwood could get Death Blow 3 in his base weapon with something referencing Lyn and Hector, such as "If unit is within 2 spaces of Infantry or Armoured Unit, grants Atk/Def +4 to unit and allies within 2 spaces."

As for Hector, up Armads to have QR 3 And Give him Bracing Stance 2 as his refine or something, just to have him catch up with his newer models

Also, M and F Robin badly need Legendary weapons and their refines. Something to take advantage of their higher def baseline than most mages

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by LJ 3 months 2 weeks ago

For me, I'd like to see Hawkeye get a new weapon.

Not sure what he could have in place of his default Killer/Slaying Axe, but it'd be nice to have another infantry axe unit that has a different niche compared to other infantry axe units. We have Raven/Linus with their offensive refines with Life & Death so maybe give Hawkeye a refine to make use of his great bulk. The only other notable infantry axe available apart from Anna is Dorcas and he's 5* exclusive.

I also think Saber should have a new weapon, maybe the Golden Dagger Celica gives him in Echoes. Plus he'll be in a banner since the first one he was introduced in. Why IS put him as a bonus unit in the Arena when he's only been in one banner is baffling to me.

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I would love for Hawkeye to have a weapon that'd help with his survival.
Maybe an effect like solar brace, giving 30% health from special damage alongside a bracing stance.

I hope Saber gets an effect that helps with defence specials, since that's the one part that's unique about him
Maybe a damage boost like ice mirror or allowing the def special to stay charged

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Subaki, Bartre, Rebecca and need new weapons imo.

Since there are so many lance fliers, with subaki being the only defensive one, I think he really needs a new weapon. His original weapon choice is useful for a short-term investment, His only good long term investments are either slaying lance, reprisal lance or Tannelboom!. In my opinion, Subaki's pike would be a wonderful addition, as his attack stat is his only real mitigating stat, as he has stellar speed and defence, with decent hp and mediocre res. As for the regular skill, ATK/DEF bond would be just phenomenal, as they'd coincide well with quick riposte. His refinement might relate to his perfectionist skill, where his stats increase based on his HP threshold. It could be along the lines of: If user's hp >75, speed and defence (originating from hit rate and avoid) + 7.

With Bartre, he does get out shined by a lot axe units, such as both Cherche, Bike and W!Chrom, who have all around better stat distributions and can achieve what Bartre can with ease. of I think he deserves devil axe, with a fury 4 effect. It could have a more unique effect, for example: If user's defence > enemies defence, user makes a guaranteed follow-up attack, referring from how he used to start with a brave axe in his original game.

Rebecca needs a new weapon because she's near never used due to her having no good stat, unlike what she was like in blazing blade at all, as she was a glass cannon attacker with lethal speed along with a decent attack stat. Her legendary weapon could be a brave bow with no speed penalties, and as for the refine it could be a swift sparrow 2.

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And what about Lute guys? I guess she also needs a refinement.
The problem is she has already a weapon which boosts an stat (+3 speed in this case) and her weapon has already an effect, so I doubt she gets a refinement on her weapon.
But Celica's Ragnarok can be considered even better than her tome, and she got one...

Maybe;

Weirding Tome: (refinned)
16 (not 14)
Gives speed +4
At start of turn, all foes in cardinal directions, and with Res 1 or more lower than unit, suffer Spd/Res -5 until the end of foes' next actions

She would get +2 ATA, +1 SPD and ploy on RES. Im not sure if it worth for 200 refinement feathers...

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Seth and Mathilda desperately need some improvement. Quoting from one of my favourite YouTuber, they went from god tier to trash tier. Needs some improvement to make them closer to their original.
Henry, he wasn’t good in awakening but he definitely wasn’t this bad.
Beruka, only build is tank build, maybe give her a unique axe with iote shield or some stance skill to help improve on that.
Arthur and Narcian, same problem but I love their characters too much to see them forever benched or foddered. Runeaxe for Narcian anyone?
Laslow and Selena, Odin got one so why not?
These two units are too niche to be good.
Jakob, falling behind other daggers, needs something to stand out
Female Corrin, male corrin got one, and I feel she should have some kind of prf weapon.
Lissa, as well as most infantry healers, needs some benefit that makes them better to use than cavalry healers
Oliver, because he’s Oliver
Innes is falling behind, he needs something. Tana doesn’t really need much tho.
Florina and Rebecca, only 1 good stat, many people actually like them too.
Lucius, needs a light magic alt
Matthew, I love this character and think he needs more love.
Sophia, cause she isn’t good to use, maybe give her a Nosferatu, it would fit her mixed defences
Palla and catria, both are too focused on bulk over power, have little place in the meta. Sad too, Palla can be good as a dracoknight in her game.

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Henry: he has such high defences and with the current meta raventome isn't as good anymore so I would like to see him get a refine of either distant/close defence in his tome kinda like blarserpent and the refine would be maybe something like gaurd to make him an even bigger wall than he already is

Robin: His legendary Thoron weapon just please IS he is dying even Odin is better than him now

I would like to see some tempest units get a refine like Tobin and Clive since they could use all the help they could get
Speaking of Echoes, Mathilda desperately needs one as well since they did her so dirty in Heroes

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