New Refines hype!

To be fair, camillas axe is axeually a thing, it’s at least in warriors. Maybe in fates too?
The others are just lazy, but to be fair there wasn’t really anything better

I'm waiting for Beruka's Axe which was a thing in Fates, increased critical which usually means reduced cooldown on Heroes. Then we need one more to run a wyvern riding Name's Axe team.

They have already confirmed 3.0 will be around the end of the year.

This sounds rude, but maybe you should read the news sometimes and quit playing because the game isn't designed as what you wanted.

Most of these characters truly deserved it.
They’re highly loved(except bartre) and rally want to be used but are either highly outclassed(bartre and Shanna), too good for fodder( Shanna) or have trash for stats( Florina), saber isn’t bad, just has too much competition.
Hopefully these refines will make these units good or at least better.
If Florina gets good enough I will build her up from scratch to fit in my FE7 team

Just foddered one for slaying edge for Seth

Why should they go the route of making the granted cooldown on his B skill superfluous on 2-cooldown specials / half-superfluous on 3 CD specials? They could instead have an effect that adds the added damage found on Ice Mirror to any defensive special if they want to roll with Shield Pulse synergy.

+1 Cooldown and Ice Mirror-like damage? That would make Saber more versatile than Fjorm, as he could run the 3 CD specials.

ArgentSable mentioned this:

"In the FEH Subreddit, they've once more turned to the unused skill templates that have been known to be pretty accurate at guessing Legendary hero Skills and this time, to me, theyre telling.

AID_戦闘強化_敵TP変動値変化 (lit. "combat boost - foe's cooldown charge change")
Grants stat boosts during combat, and also reduces the foe's cooldown charge by 1, always or per unit's / foe's attack. The related SAID, SAID_戦闘強化_TP変動値変化, is used by Breath passives, so presumably this tag would be used in similar skills; if this is used in a passive rather than an exclusive weapon, it means we will the Guard effect on slot A passives as well.

SAID_追撃効果無効 (lit. "nullify follow-up effects")
Neutralizes the foe's skills that affect follow-ups. This includes, but is not limited to: Brash Assault, Quick Riposte, all Breaker passives, all Fighter skills (except Special Fighter), Great Flame, Thunder Armads, the exclusive weapons of all variations of Ephraim. It does not affect skills that prevent counterattacks (Firesweep weapons, Dazzling Staff), nor the unit's own skills, unlike Hardy Bearing. It also does not affect the part of the skills that do other things as long as the skill conditions are met; for example, when initiating combat against a foe with Vengeful Fighter, the foe still gets cooldown charge +1 per foe's attack, but that foe will no longer always counterattack twice.

SAID_守備魔防最低値参照_味方隣接 (lit. "use lower of Def / Res - ally adjacent")
If the unit is within a number of spaces of an ally, that unit will do adaptive damage to foes. This can already be done using existing tags, by combining SAID_守備魔防最低値参照, used by Felicia's Plate, and SLID_周囲味方数, used by Laws of Sacae and Royal Sword, although both have skill range equal to 2; the only reasonable guess is that whichever new skill using this tag has used up its two SkillLimit IDs, so the ally condition has to be merged into the SkillAbility ID.

SAID_周囲能力奪取 (lit. "steal surrounding stats")
If any foe is within a number of spaces of the unit, inflicts a stat debuff on all such foes and grants an opposite buff on the unit, like an out-of-combat version of Rogue Dagger, which uses SAID_能力奪取 instead. For some reason I could not get nearby allies to receive buffs; on the map with animations enabled they appear to receive +0 buffs. (The range for allies and the range for foes have to be specified using the same parameter.)"

Not sure if this is what you're talking about.

Go for it, lili a is so good with her refine and death blow, much fun to use
(Haven’t built her yet tho, still working on it)