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New Heroes stats are out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK2nJkEVYAArZAc.jpg Inigo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK2nBTkVoAAF6Jo.jpg Olivia
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK2mhovVwAAGsgC.jpg Azura
and Shigure now https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK2o3yvVYAEKNK2.jpg

Asked by sivo1 year 3 months ago
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Nice, thanks for the heads up.

It looks looks like Azura and Olivia are completely busted, while Shigure and Inigo are what we expected with nice even stats all around.

Although their BST is actually much lower than I thought haha.

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Y Azura seems like only 1 hp and 1 atk trade to have vs her old.
The others have less bst if i have seen right but is the reason because of becoming Tome/Dagger +Dance/Sing.

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I know, I just thought they might be closer to Reinhardt's BST level, not that much lower.

As for Azura, she has the best offensive stats for a dancer so far with 48/34 at neutral with her weapon (that's better than Camus), alongside the fact she can run TA with that Resistance of hers and tank Reinhardts. The Resistance on her Lance counterpart was honestly quite wasted due to her colouring, but now that she's green, she'll be doing more work.

With Olivia, Poison Dagger will be completely busted on her, she has the stats to run it with minimal commitment and it's basically free damage for her, since unlike Kagero who's a purely offensive unit, she can just dance and support the team when Poison Dagger doesn't work.
However, even without knowing her stats I knew Olivia was going to have great support potential with access to daggers.

Although, I really have no idea how to run them in Arena with those BSTs.

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True 140BST is weak like hell that is near impossible to make that good and that the heroes are only limited if i have understand it right make it actually worst.

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I'm confused, were you disagreeing with me and then suddenly changed half way through? :P

But yeah, my argument is always, if Felicia can use it well, anyone can.

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Got me there (aka the guy who actually made a post-long about it). Didn't think other people were up to the idea, but being locked to an infantry killer isn't as bad in practice.

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Felicia is true Waifu, so I actually remember reading that.

I think the biggest boon for Felicia and Olivia running Poison Dagger is, as I mentioned, their ability to perform a different role at the same time. Felicia can be a mage tank while Olivia can dance, which means being locked into killing infantry doesn't really hurt them at all.

And you're right, I was using Kagero in Arena this weak and she was honestly really solid, I haven't even built her either.

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I basically did a whole thing debunking the idea that she can't run Poison Dagger well, though it'll more than likely require +Atk (which is very feasible, with how common she is). Neutral Fury gets her very close to 40 Res, which generally allows you to tank at least two mages (assuming they're not buffed or it, liek, Delthea).

I think the "mage killer" thing limits her to a niché, when she could do a lot more than that with only a little effort. I'm actually feeling like running my Felicia in Trials now.

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The ranged dancer BST penalty... Was looking forward to Shigure, but his stats are underwhelming and he was drawn by one of my least favorite artists. I'll still try to get him though.

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Kinda disappointed with a lot of those stats, especially the one I was most looking forward to (Inigo). With Gronnraven+ he doesn't even reach 40atk without a +atk boon... With +spd he can run a bladetome though.

Also really surprised at Shigure's speed... If anything, I would've thought he and Inigo would swap stats. Azura's the only one with a really good statline.

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by Cav829 1 year 3 months ago

Thanks for posting this.

I'm not really sure what some people were expecting. A bunch of us did try to remind everyone earlier that these were dancers and they'd have lower BST and you shouldn't expect them to be replacements for existing powerhouses on your team given their dance capabilities. I'm just happy they didn't violate their own BST rules again like they did with the Brave units.

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To be fair 140 is actually a huge punishment for having a range attack Weapon. Have expected that they get low but even lower then Cavalry Tome arround 144-145 seems hard Oo.
Azura was somehow clear with same stats actually i thought 1-2 BST more but they actually maked a little change of 1 atk more 1hp less^^(still uninque weapon will give her more BST)

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They did the complete opposite to Brave Lyn and Ike by removing an extra 4-5 stats from these guys lol. They have 14-15 less stats than the regular dancers, it's quite laughable actually.

But I dunno, I don't think anyone really thought dancers would replace their actual fighters, I'm personally surprised at how good Azura and Olivia's stats are for dancers.

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I'm not really. The concept of dancer mage from get go I already fugred it's fodder. Azura and olivia was pretty much right on as speculated.

Dancer dagger is very useful. Dancer mage no... since poison dagger itself is built in infantry killer regardless while mage would just be a lesser version of regular mage and I'd rather go with regular mage and an olivia or azura than the other two.

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