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Neutral 4* Fae worth investing? Best refined lightning breath stat?

I am saving orbs for next week's madness but decided to go ahead and use my free summon and saw 1 green orb attempting for myrrh but got a Fae. Is neutral solid? If so any suggested skills would be cool maybe even making use out of some of her default skills since I am still in the process of Dragon emblem (nowi and adult tiki so far not counting female corrin because she does wonders in my debuff squad).

Asked by Brandon211 months ago
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Neutral is always viable and she’s a great unit in the current arena meta where with lightning breath + and the right investment she can take down Reinhardt and Brave Lyn amongst others fairly easily.
I’m not the expert on Fae so other users will be able to give you a more thorough rundown on her but I’d recommend her certainly.

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by TG15 11 months 1 week ago

Her optimal build would be viable, even with neutral IVs, simply because she is very well rounded defensively, has respectable attack, and her speed is not great no matter what you do. So with all facts considered, check out her page. Her special doesn’t have to be Aether, and her A skill doesn’t need to be steady breath. If you have any ideas on what you think you would want to do in place of those (assuming you don’t have a B.Ike to fodder), run them by me and I’ll give you feedback.

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Alright cool! Well yea I only have 1 BIke so no steady breath fodder which eliminates aether being too long of a cool down. I wanted to see if a support build with her refined light breath could work with her default kit since lightning breath is a huge investment I might not make. Maybe throw in a hard hitting res based special like iceberg or glacies because sol and noontime have let me down with other units in the past. Again I've seen destructive Fae builds on the site and in the game, but it's a huge investment that honestly I wouldn't mind going for a support build that can still pick and choose her battles since she's pretty balanced at neutral IV. For now I can use her with nowi adult tiki and my wrathful dazzle bridal Lyn (no ninian or myrrh)

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Iceberg would be a solid alternative to Aether since she would hit for 15 damage with it, and Aether would not make sense without steady breath, glacies would be good if you were ok with trading an extra cool down for 9 extra damage. As for her A skill, did you want to have her be a true meta killer or did you want her to be a good unit that can hold her own with Nowi and Tiki? Because you can go a couple different ways with her A skill. If you have the right fodder, her meta killer build with TA is not a stretch for you. But if you don’t have a spare Roy at 4* I would not recommend axing a 5* unit for TA unless they just aren’t that good (I axed a -ATK+DEF MAE for desperation 3 once, and I still don’t regret it). Otherwise, there are other options, and hearing your ideas could help you become much better at devising future builds for other units.

In regards to her breath, if you don’t want to axe a 5* dragon to get lightning breath+ (which I understand) then I’d recommend still sticking with a defensive refinement so she can hold up in melee fights, although the drawback from that is that Brave Lyn and Reinhardt won’t be as afraid to engage a Fae if she can’t fight back. With Lightning Breath, Fae hard counters Reinhardt, taking 0 damage (or under 10) with TA3 and can kill Lyn on the counter as well. So her default breath is not bad, but lightning breath makes her so much better.

As for the rest of her kit, if you follow the builds listed on her page for her B and C skill, you can’t go wrong. But if you have any other questions, feel free to let me know and I will help you however I can.

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Preciate it I do have another Roy for TA and multiple setsuna fodder for bowbreaker would that be better than her renewal? Also she's worth it I guess lightning breath is worth the 20k feathers. I actually have TA on both nowi and adult tiki because I'm not big on fury in general but at the same time def+3 or atk+3 in the A slot could feel underwhelming. I might as well ask if it's wise to match up all 3 TA dragons or if there are other alternatives besides fury? Another question would be about TA bowbreaker vs Fury renewal on Fae (assuming both are lightning breath). Which refined stat is the most beneficial for lightning breath on neutral Fae? Lastly which ally support for this Dragon triangle between Fae nowi and adult tiki? Sorry for all the questions haha

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Well considering that I personally told you to ask any questions you had, I’m not faulting you in the slightest for asking.

Anyway, I am surprised that you’re running TA not just on Nowi but also on Tiki. A triple TA team could either conquer maps unscathed or fall apart in a heartbeat. I would strongly urge you to not run it as an arena defense team unless you have gotten your defend for that season, because I’ve personally went up against all TA teams with flier emblem and have decimated them without taking a single point of damage.

Anyway, I would say the decision is really up to you on fury Renewal vs TA breaker. They both have benefits. Fury Renewal allows you to add to Fae’s bulk while keeping her alive longer with self sustain through Renewal, plus she can be a lot tankier and hit harder. TA breaker is a meta killer, which is good if you are wanting to run in the arena, but not so good when you consider that you’re running 2 other TA units that could cause you to fall apart, especially if you run into a Naga/Divine Naga. I’ve destroyed an Adult Tiki with a Julia running Dragon Fang charged in one shot with ease, even after TA, so Julia and Deirdre will be a death sentence to your team, but moreso Julia with a +ATK nature. Both will probably become highly relevant in arena play due to Myrrh’s release. But a meta killer is wise to have, especially since Reinhardt and Brave Lyn will not go away anytime soon. You may change your Tiki to run a different A slot, maybe slap a QR seal on her and run Fury/Renewal for her so she can still function well as a stand-alone unit. Just a thought.

There’s a lot of options out there, and depending on the IVs of your others, you could surely make it work. Triple TA wouldn’t be bad though, just not optimal. Anyway, regarding lightning breath, I would still stick to defense refinement. With that, her defense hits 29 to give her a solid 29/30 spread on defense to go with a monstrous 51 HP, letting her have an effective 80/81 physical/magical soak. She would be a solid tank.

As for your supports, it is ultimately up to you. Think about your play habits, and who you keep close together when in combat. That should answer your question.

If there is anything else, again feel free to let me know. I’m just sitting at work bored right now so your questions are more than welcomed.

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Only apologized because I asked so many questions at once but I gotcha. I might just make use of her renewal skill and just give Fae fury with def refined lightning breath. however what about the other 2 dragons? Nowi and A!Tiki both run TA QR bonfire because I don't like having too many fury units. Any other budget A skills? Atk or def+3 could work as some examples. At least 1 of the dragons can keep TA instead of all 3. Now it is between nowi vs A!Tiki on TA and then the other budget A skill.

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Between Nowi and Tiki, if you only want one to run TA, Nowi should do it for the sake of Falchion users.

In Tiki’s case, running TA would not be bad. What I was truly concerned about was a triple TA team. But other options for budget skills include Earth boost, Water Boost, the vanilla def +3 skill, as well as fury. Between those options, I’d say TA would be better than any of the others because she can wipe out any green units, if you ran a QR seal on her you could run Swordbreaker to wipe out any sword users and greatly hinder Falchion users, as well as at least be able to stand a chance against Naga, on top of being able to follow up against any unit as long as you’re above 70% HP, and she could hold her own against other units. TA would not be bad on both, but it would be bad on all 3.

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I have an extra boey if Tiki's HP is already high enough for earth boost. If not I have def+3. Nowi with TA does make more sense for falchions but no swordbreaker rn just QR

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Well, Abel has swordbreaker 3 at 4* if you run across him. That would give you 2 effective Falchion stoppers and Adult tiki would most likely kill Julia and Deirdre on initiation with TA. As an arena defense team, it may not be the most orthodox, but offensively you could do great things with a team build like that. Tiki would be ok with earth boost if her breath is refined, but could possibly benefit from an HP seal to increase its efficiency. If you don’t want to do that, then running a vanilla def+3 would be ok, but if you are planning to use this team competitively, then I would recommend just using TA for higher scoring.

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My RD team is my main team that looks like I will be back in tier 20 for the 2nd time ever (zelgius micaiah BIke and Sanaki...waiting for 4* sothe as a big fan of the game) so not close to competitive dragon emblem anytime soon. Nowi can manage with QR until swordbreaker and then adult tiki is my only contemplation between keeping her current TA vs def+3...but you mentioned TA being higher arena score so might just keep two TA dragons and position properly with fury Fae. They won't be my defense team unless they are in season anyway.

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by Zelph 11 months 1 week ago

Im using a neutral Fae,slap on her TA3,and she will destroy reinhardt (and most others blue)without taking much damage,if you wanna be overkill,you can also slap bowbreaker on her and she will destroy both Reinhardt and B.lyn.

Best refinment for a neutral is +def imo,she make a great hybrid tank.

Don't forget you still need to feed her lightningbreath+ to allow her to distant counter though.

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