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More Possible Refining Ideas

From my last topic about [Possible Refining Ideas], only Eliwood seems reasonably balanced and the other three seemed unreasonably strong. So I will give a fair reasoning for the next set of possible refinements for currently pre-existing units in FEH.

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Lyon
Naglfar
Grants weapon advantage against colorless units.
Ref: Grants Odd Atk Wave 3

Lyon can either become independent or be supportive of his allies thanks to built-in Odd Atk Wave 3. His Naglfar grants him Atk+6 on every odd-numbered turns, making him a huge threat against Green and Colorless units in general. This also complements well with Eirika's refined Sieglinde.

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Cherche
Helswath (New skill)
Accelerate special (cooldown-1).
Ref: Grants Wrath 3

All of Cherche's artwork depict her wielding Helswath. However, despite never actually wielding it in the main game or in Heroes, this seems to be an iconic visual for her. And whether or not Cherche is related to the Divine God Neir, the bloodlink to this weapon has waned over time. And by the time in Awakening, this allows Cherche to use it freely. This weapon is identical that of Berserk Armads and since Flying units cannot inherit Wrath, this makes more sense for Cherche to have it.

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Palla
Mercurius (New skill)
Reduces melee foe's first attack by 30%.
Ref: If foe uses sword, lance, axe or dragonstone, grants Atk+6 during combat.

Surprise, surprise. It's Palla. This weapon reflects to Parthia's refinement where it only affects melee combatant instead of ranged. This gives Palla much more needed power when facing against many melee units in general, especially since she has well-rounded stats.

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Robin (Male)
Robin's Primer (New skill)
Grants weapon advantage against colorless units.
Ref: If an ally is adjacent to unit, grants Atk/Spd/Def/Res+4 during combat.

Robin's Primer may look identical to Robin's Thoron tome, but it actually shoots a ball of fire instead. Regardless, since Robin is all about bonding his allies, his refinement makes more sense for a unit like him. Robin essentially gets a 14 Mt Raventome, similar situation that of Lyon, except Robin is a Blue unit, so he can leave a huge dent in powerful units like Ayra, Zelgius and so forth.

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And that's it for now. Only one unit with a native weapon gets a refinement, while the other three acquired new weapons in order to get a refinement.

What do you think of these refinements? Leave your thoughts below.

Asked by TheSeunger7 months 1 week ago
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by Tactician_Neil 7 months 2 weeks ago

Robin and Lyons are good but I wouldnt give a new weapon to Palla and Cherche.

If Palla is going to get a new weapon so should Catria and Est and that will be too much that I wouldn't see it happen. The Mercurius would most likely go to a Marth alt or possibly Navarre.

Too many people are already running Brave Axe+ on Cherche so people would probably ignore her new weapon. Too add to that it would take away L!Ryoma's unique utility.

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by Drago 7 months 2 weeks ago

Sounds good, its just that Palla out of all units seem very unlikely to get a prf, especially a sword like Mercurius. Seems like that would go to Navarre instead with probably a different effect that fits him

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by NymHer0 7 months 2 weeks ago

Being a pristine Lyon user, having OAW3 in weapon would be nice, but it doesn't suit his playstyle at all. He is a defensive mage. If anything, it should have the effect of the LA presents or distant defense since that suits his role of being a tank. And since Naglfar is a raven tome, the refine has to benefit his style a ton or we would go for a defensive refine to make his defensive stats only a 1-2 point difference.

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by _Absolutely_Di… 7 months 2 weeks ago

Robins weapon is cool an all that, but wouldn't it be better if his new weapon was a Legenday OwlTome to go along with is refine.

Mercurius doesn't fit Palla, maybe someone like ogma. The weapon and refine are fine.

Cherche is just basically Minerva, I think her weapon should be like Lilianas weapon, but with Chill Def.

Lyon is fine, Btw this is my opinion.

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by Pacmaniac 7 months 2 weeks ago

Lyon - I always thought Naglfar's refine should be Triangle Adept, but that's just me.

Cherche - Maybe it can be legendary Brave Axe instead? A Wrath refine would still work on her with a weapon like that.

Palla - Indifferent about it, but if you're going to give her one, give Catria one and give Est one, too.

Robin - I like it. I'd give me a reason to star him up.

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