Hiya! I was wondering if there were any units that pretty much hard counter common high Arena threats. I already have a TA Bowbreaker Robin-M to beat Brave Lyn, Bridelia, and many sword lords, but I want to take my Arena defense team to the next level. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
TA Bowbreaker Raven Female Robin soft counters both Rein and Brave Lyn, and she's great against blues. I'd say that WoM dancers are among the best meta breakers tho since paired with some positioning skills or lucky survives and a Rein or Brave Lyn, they're really powerful
Depends on what you're looking to counter. The current top meta threats tend to be ranged and/or very mobile. Lyndis and Reinhardt have both. You're best bet against them is someone that can retaliate and kill on counter, since you're saving yourself the extra turn to position accordingly against other horses.
I think it's essential that the meta-counters eliminate their target when baiting...otherwise the AI might reposition Reinhardt back from danger or worse dance him on to target another unit. The problem with units like Anna or Titania is that they need to run Distant Counter in their A slot to do so which drastically limits their use outside of baiting Reinhardt and other mages...
Sidenote: Why haven't we gotten an axe with Distant Counter yet? There are a few legendary swords (Siegfried, Raijinto, Ragnell, Alondite) and a legendary spear (Gradivus) but no axes with Distant Counter built in... This leaves Fae as the only Green unit with access to innate Distant Counter.
You can't really go wrong with IVs for Fae. I personally run +res/-hp, as her HP is high enough and could be bolstered with an HP+3 Seal if necessary, and I REALLY wanted to focus on tanking blue mages. But +atk suits her, even +def for general tanking purposes, etc. There are positive aspects to just about every boon if running an enemy phase-centric lightning breath build. I'd just recommend HP or maybe Spd as the dump stat.
+RES -DEF Summer Leo with Distant Defense, Guard, Panic Ploy, and the HP+3 seal. Tanks +ATK Deathblow QP/Moonbow Reinhardt with 2 HP to spare and counters for the KO. This is all in theory, of course, but can you imagine the poor soul whose deathless arena run with Reinhardt was ruined by a Red unit?
Sigh. If only I'd pulled Summer Leo I'd devote all of my resources to making this reality.
I have a +RES Lilina that I've been trying to fit into this role but she can't quite pull it off. The margin of error is only 2HP so Sanaki and Lilina are, unfortunately, just shy of the mark.
+RES Caeda is the only other Red* I've found who, with the right build, can tank Reinhardt but she can't counter for the KO so it's not as appealing.
*I should qualify that as the only other Red who can run an offensive Special. It is possible with a wide variety of Red units running with Sacred Cowl/Aegis and Shield Pulse.
I had a nagging feeling that I was incorrect and went back to do some calculations... (Not that anyone but me is going to return to this thread now that it's fallen from the front page.) It turns out that +RES Sanaki can, just barely, manage to KO +ATK Deathblow QP/Moonbow Reinhardt when running Distant Defense, Guard, Iceberg, and the HP+3 seal. Like with Summer Leo, she survives with just 2HP.
The nice thing about this set-up is that in addition to countering Reinhardt she's a premium anti-mage who can destroy all Green mages and the rare Red mage. Now I really want to pull +RES Sanaki. :(
She needs Bowbreaker to reliably bait and kill Lyn, so I'd stick with that. Unfortunately, Bowbreaker is really the only reliable way to truly make sure you can stop Lyn from doubling/double her because of her insane 38 speed + 4 for Swift Sparrow before a single buff comes into play.
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