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Is limited turns unfair?

I was trying to beat the second Nohrian Summer level on Insane and fearless for the orbs and thanks to my lackluster team its hard enough as it is to beat it. I can't blame IS for my lackluster team as I've just recently started. However, I was annoyed by the way the game counts "4" turns. I was just about to beat the level deathless, but my last move required me to bait an enemy unit to kill it. Unfortunately, the game decides the end of YOUR fourth move is the amount you get and I lost because of it. Personally, it just makes more sense to me that turn 4 counts as the enemy's last move. What do you guys think?

Asked by Heattrans1 year 5 months ago

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It's definitely unfair for newer/unluckier players. It forces you into unreasonable situations that cause you to lose team members, especially on modes like chain challenge, where some of the maps are already difficult to win in the first.

Wait there was a turn limit? I didn't even notice lmao

Lol I only have two good units for now so it takes me more turns to win matches

I mean sure you can do it under 4 if you're been blessed (just enough) by IS to have decent units. The thing I try 2 do is take out a unit and bait knowckout another unit on the opponents turn. This works for me though when I do it in chains it is a bit harder as I have ONLY 1 effective team and I cannot really spare to lose any :ppp
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All in all it's rather hard to have RNGesus give out good offensive teams. No less ones that have sufficient movement spaces to win in time.

All Hail Reinhardt

It's not unfair. You said yourself that you are new to the game. Newer players shouldn't expect to beat the whole game immediately.

I understand that its fair that I'm a new player and can't pull off some of the harder limited time quests for their orbs but my main problem that I found is that "turn 4" ends on my 4th move and not the enemy's 4th move.

It seems like you ignored their point. The point they're making is not "I'm new, so things I can't beat are unfair." Their point is that 4 turns should include the enemy's turn as well, because the game doesn't really specify this. When you're used to seeing an NPC control the enemy units, you tend to forget the fact that enemies also get their own "Turn 1" animation thing too. Just look at Hone Atk 3, it says "Grants adjacent allies Atk+4 through their next actions at the start of each turn." Who would've known that it includes the enemy's turn as well? Not everybody, otherwise I wouldn't see that same question being asked online.

Actually when you have to win within a turn limit, the AI will stall you out on the last turn if it can. The last turn doesn't end after your phase. It ends after the AI skips its phase.

you just need a blue mage and a red mage. Use the red mage to take down the armor unit at turn 1, and move the blue one just bellow it and break the box. Move your other two units to the left.
Next turn advance the red mage and kill Xander, and move the blue just in to Leo's range (or just bellow it? I can't remember that, but its the same). Your other two units should be baiting the lance pegassi (so an axe unit would be ideal) Next turn do the Leo baiting if it wasn't possible the last turn, and dispose of the pegassi if its still alive.
And there, pretty much any blue mage should destroy Leo. In fact, pretty much any red mage should destroy Leo...

On a note, slow red mages won't work, because they'll be unable to ORKO Xander. In any case, Nino can do it (I actually used her) even without buffs, and she's quite common.