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Karla vs. Ayra. My thoughts

I wanted to say this a long time ago. Since these units have similar roles and similar builds, it all sums up now on overall performance against the meta. But to be frank, I believe, Karla has a higher edge here. I'll explain why in a while on Ayra's case. I'll compare pros and cons of each.

Karla

+Vassal's Blade deals up to 7 TRUE damage if requirements are met. This should be easy with her high speed.
+Not really special reliant. 35 Atk is a good base. This means she can get past Guard.
+Has a Spd superboon
+Better base kit
-Very much weaker defense by 8. Not really a matter as both Karla and Ayra will die to Bold Fighter in high arena meta.
-Higher speed means easy Chill Spd target.

Ayra

+Has deadly Regnal Astra. Good for arena scoring and build flexibility. Changing her prf is an option.
+High physical bulk.
+Good player phase kit that doesn't need tweaking
-Being reliant on her Regnal Astra means she will be weak to Guard. 33 Atk is good, but if she decides to change her kit to Enemy Phase like a Slaying Edge, that will only bring her up to 47. She'll probably need an Atk boon, or will need Infantry Pulse/Quickened pulse support. If she doesn't activate Regnal Astra regardless of Phase, she will either lose the KO opportunity or die.

Other thoughts?

Asked by riccochet6 months 2 weeks ago
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by Seeker 6 months 2 weeks ago

I don't have either, but from a theoretical standpoint these two are quite interesting. Ayra has a lot of flexibility due to her insane special, but Karla is even more flexible because she doesn't even need her special if she goes with her prf, which comes with special acceleration and extra damage. The only weapon I usually see Ayra switch to is slaying edge, but Karla can take all manner of different specials, including - as featured on a very current post - AoE specials.

As you say, Ayra has a significant edge in physical bulk, but I'm not convinced that either of them can reliably take more than one hit, especially if the counterattack comes with 50+ atk. Sword Lyn is currently the only unit that can use both desperation and wrath (unless you want to go all-in on Hector's speed), so Karla has an advantage in this regard, not being special-reliant.

I do think that both Karla and Ayra are going to be common targets of chill spd, especially the Ayras I've encountered, so I don't think Ayra is doing better than Karla here.

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by hanyuu 6 months 2 weeks ago

I don't even see a contest for both of them when I read regnal astra. Scoring should be you highest priority, and with 500sp special, Ayra is just better. If it is not for arena, I could see a point for Karla being better. All in all, they are pretty much similar. Also, Ayra won't die from Bold fighter from other unit than Zelgius, as Aether has a 5 charge and won't proc, and you will mostly just initiate with these unit so taking a bit less damage can be usefull.

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Not all units with Bold Fighter carry Aether. See the Hectors for an instance. They would rather carry Ignis than Aether to take advantage of Berserk Armads. It's like Berserk Armads+Ignis = Black Luna if Hector falls in Wrath range.

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Ayra
Slaying edge +spd 350
Regnal astra 500
Distant counter 300
Wrath 240
Total: 1390

Karla
Vassal's blade 400
Galeforce 500
Flashing blade 240
Desperation 200
Total: 1340

Depending on your assist, seal, and C-skill, you'll get maybe one point of difference which then gets averaged across the four units of the team. Karla can compete in SP if you want her to.

By the way, Karla is faster than Ayra by 1 point in these two builds.

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I have an Ayra, over rated. She's a solid unit, but she is very generic and doesn't offer much special imo. I have about 17 other 5* sword units and I prefer about 9 of them over Ayra, so she doesn't even show up in arena assault.

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What kind of player do you think each unit suits better? Ex: Karla if you like galeforce, Ayra if you like massive, explosive specials...

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Im a little biased since I'm heavily invested in ayra and I just recently got karla,but I prefer ayra for her bulk and limitless special.

There both player phase oriented,but ayra's bulk let's her pull off defensive and mixed phase builds better.

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