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I need help with my arena core

So.... I'am new to Gamepress so first I want to say hi. Well hi xd.

Here's the thing, I need to know what you guys/girls think about my arena core. It is actually conformed by (I would post pics, but I'm so lazy that I don't want to):

Fae (+5).
Water Blessed.
IV's: +Spd-HP
Weapon: Lightning Breath +spd.
Assist: Reposition (looking for a good double rally to raise the score).
Special: Glacies (I want to change it for Aether).
Skill A: Fury 3.
Skill B: Renewal 3.
Skill C: Spur Def 3 (Thinking on changing it by a Drive or a 240 skill).
Seal: Panic Ploy 3.
Summoner Supported.

Grima M (+1).
Earth Blessed.
IV's: +Def-Res
Weapon: Expiration (sometimes I change it for Lightning Breath +res).
Assist: Pivot (when I don't bring along an unit with Reposition) / Rally Spd-Res / Rally Def-Res.
Special: Aether.
Skill A: Warding Breath.
Skill B: Vengeful Fighter 3.
Skill C: Ward Dragons.
Seal: Distant Defense 3.

Nowi (+1).
Wind/Earth Blessed.
IV's: +Spd-HP
Weapon: Lightning Breath +Res / Def / Spd
Assist: Reposition / Swap.
Special: Aether.
Skill A: Fury 3 (If I ever get a B!Ike I'll give her Steady Breath without any doubt :D)
Skill B: QR 3.
Skill C: Drive Spd 2.
Seal: Close Defense 2.

Asked by Yune7 months 3 weeks ago
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If you ever get F!kana, her goad dragons c skill can be great for Fae, also drive atk for c slot can be good as well if you cant get F!kana.

Your M!grima looks pretty good and i can see why you use warding with vengeance fighter, extra res while getting a 2 charge when he counters back.

Nowi is is well built as well.

A good 4th unit can be Ninian for her dance or better Myrrh due to her breath eff stopping enemy doubles no matter the speed if her def is +5 higher than her opponent in either phase

All and all, welcome to gamepress

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Wouldn't you struggle a bit with Falchion / Naga users? All it takes is one on an enemy squad to ruin an arena run, but if you've been having success with this core then why not keep it. I'd maybe consider running Swordbreaker on Nowi so that she's a dedicated red sword counter to protect your green dragons.

I'd also consider foddering M!Kana for Fortify Dragons since you're using a full dragon team, maybe to give to Nowi

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Since Fae seems to be a merge project, you might be better off investing in her Defense over her Speed, especially as you push her up past +5. I'm fairly certain you're in a range where most of the Greens you see are physical attackers, and lacking a Red to take care of them you might want to be sure Fae can safely handle multiple engagements when necessary. I'm not sure if Fae's superbane in HP lowers her BST bin, or if you care about that, but if you do, -Spd might be preferable over -HP.

If you're saving SB for Nowi, Aether is probably not going to ever proc for Fae because of the 5+1 CD, so she loses some utility in favour of a higher arena score. Dropping or leaving her Spd neutral could mitigate this a bit by getting doubles for charging.

Oscar has a double Rally at 4* if you wanna get the higher score now, but it's Spd/Def so it might not have any real utility for you beyond score.

Goad Dragons from fKana is a good option, but if you like the Def buffing Drive Def is dirt cheap from 4* Nanna now.

If you decide to lean off Spd on Fae, Nowi's C slot probably wants to change, unless mGrima is using the spur for some reason. You can possibly unnescessarily double up the Drive Def bonus on mGrima and have Nowi assist with patching Fae's Def if you go that way.

The higher you push your Arena score the more you're going to find Spd is either useless or too low on these units to ever patch up, as overall Speed is increasing and more skills are showing up that ignore speed when it comes to doubles. -Spd +Def or +Res Swordbreaker Nowi might work better in the long run, since she'll never have a chance of preventing doubles from swords, let alone double them. She also has to be able to handle every sword since Fae and mGrima can't, so SwdBrk is going to be important to let her do multiple engagements/get rid of Swords in one go, and in case a Falchion shows up. Distant Def might be a better seal too, since WTharja has made Red Tomes relevant again, and Fae isn't going to cover that for you.

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Oh, but of course all of this is hazarding guesses at what kinds of units youre seeing at your score level. You'll know best if any of this seems relevant for your Arena experience.

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I was thinking on that, I began running into armored units with Bold and Vengeful Fighter, and I already have the refinement in def for Fae, but I'm looking for an A Tiki for replacing Fae (even if a Y Tiki is more optimal than her older self).
No, Fae superbane in HP doesn't (from 162 to 161).

Then what could I put in her special slot? Iceberg?
I've never had an Oscar :c

I didn't get a Kana from her banner, and if I get she, I won't be foddering her (at least by now).

I'm leaning towards having a -spd nature, that way Panic Ploy will activate more often, but as I don't "completely" have fights with armored units the speed can be somewhat necessary.

And if I put Fortress Def with SB in Nowi? I know she won't be having the highest attack stat, but she could be handling some Falchions (that, or keep my trend of the bonus with SwordBreaker). Or QR in the B with Close Defense (as she is right now).

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ATiki will give you better color coverage and save you headaches for the seasons you have no viable reds on bonus, so if that's your long-term plan you can just leave Fae as-is until she gets replaced. The resources probably aren't worth it unless you want her to use them in PvE content or, I guess, during the rare seasons she's a bonus.

Probably a Res-based special, yes. Alternately, if you keep building her, -Spd and Quick Riposte in her B slot will speed up the Aether charge quite a bit.

If you're beginning to find her HP can't Panic Ploy anymore, especially if you keep that HP superbane, you could play with seals a bit:
*Special:Aether/B:Quick Riposte/S:Quickened Pulse might get Aether charged up semi-reliably for her 2nd engagement
*Special:Iceberg/B:Quick Riposte/S:DD3/CD3, depending on the range she usually fights in
*Special:Aether/B:Guard/S:Quick Riposte will keep DD3/CD3 for Grima and Nowi. Guard is better than Renewal for sustain and helps keep Fae over HP requirements for both it and QR. The Aether will help her sustain too, but a straight damage special like Iceberg/Glacies will probably end fights faster and you might find the healing doesn't happen at suitable times anyway.

If she needs speed to get doubles rather than prevent them, QR takes care of it and lets you pick a different boon. You can also stick QR in her B slot and keep Panic Ploy on seal.

Fury is a better option for Nowi than Fortress Def when you take into account the tradeoffs being made--that's 3 less Res and 6 less Atk for 2 more Def and no chip damage, which isn't changing the outcome of Physical engagements by much and damaging her Magic engagements significantly. The main problem with Falchions for Nowi, since she has colour advantage, is getting hit twice with the effectiveness dmg boost, so Swordbreaker is all she really needs to come out ok. Aether/Steady Breath/Swordbreaker should also let her recover from the Falchion damage.

You can probably change out Nowi's B slot and Seal depending on the season's current bonus units and whether or not any of them can be on Falchion Breaking duty.

If Fae keeps Panic Ploy, Nowi can trade CD for QR and get her doubles on non-swords that she doesn't need to worry about taking 2 hits from. If Fae wants QR, or if ATiki when you get her wants it, consider giving Nowi DD3 instead of Grima? Ranged damage at high scores is coming from WTharja and blues, generally, and you'll be seeing WTharja more and more, so it's better to bet you'll want Nowi tanking neutral blue magic and WTharja than have Grima taking blue magic and Nowi having 6 less Res while taking care of WTharja. Fae is capable of covering pretty much whatever ranged threats Grima is, too, and lacking DC for Grima+Expiration I think he's better off handling non-red melee.

edit: god I just realized I'd forgotten Expiration has DC built-in. That doesn't actually change my opinion on using Grima as a mage tank since yours is -Res, and especially because with Fae around it's just more efficient to have her do the work with Res and let Grima do work elsewhere.

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by Vash 7 months 3 weeks ago

Replace Either Grima or Fae with A Tiki. And keep merging all 3 of them as best you can.

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