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Help building Fjorm

Sooooo... With the advent of the Blessed Gardens, and me getting one of each Legendary Hero, I figure it was time to build teams around each hero and their stat buffs. Since Fjorm gives one of the best stat buffs, I really wanna use her in a team, but... well... she's pretty mediocre, I find. So I theorycrafted a build, (two builds, rather)

So, the first build is;
Weapon: Slaying Lance+ (+Def)
This trades in DC and 2 might for a fair bit more bulk, which makes her a bit more optimized for mixed tanking.
Support: Rally Speed
Great synergy with her water blessing.
Special: Iceberg/Bonfire
A Slot: Fortress Defense
Budget Close Defense.
B Slot: Chill Speed
While Evil Celica is cool and all, she doesn't do anything I don't have already. And Chill Speed goes amazing with her blessing.
C Slot: Drive Speed.
Again, for synergy.
SS: Fortress Res
Budget Distant Defense.

Pros: About the same physical soak as my Azama, and he tanks things pretty well. Also the corresponding bulk in resistance. Her special will hit hard as well and she becomes an amazing buff bot.
Cons: Besides HP, no stat above 40. Low speed, so I'll expect to be doubled often. Hits like a wet noodle's weaker cousin.

EDIT: Turns out Fortress Res isn't available at 4 stars, like I thought. Welp, scratch this.

Asked by SSKablooie9 months 3 weeks ago

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Second build idea is just double Fortress Res/Quick Riposte/Iceberg. Nothing too special.

I'd go for the QR one, just replace the fortress res with somthing else

Ud forego at/def bond for fortress def???????????????????????? Fortres res that i can see someone doing but fortress def?

Thats al awfully lot of investment on a unit who just needs a qr seal to earn her keep

True, except my QR seal is being passed around by about 5 different units right now, and I'd rather not make that number go up any more, especially since I'd like to use her in things like arena assault, which means someone else will have that seal. This is trying (mostly, I mean, besides Chill Speed, but her B slot is pretty variable) to be a budget build, hence no DD/CD.

Ye i alnost never end up giving her qr myself for one reason or another, usually drive def or close def.

But ye what she lacks more than anything is spd to avoid doubles. So a cheap fury with hopefully spd +3 seal patches up her speed somewhat esp with ally support

Yeah, but again all the speed seals are taken, for me, and by my most used characters so I'd really rather not switch them off. I have one permanently on my Genny, because she's my pet project, and the other on W!Robin to get him up to a respectable 40 speed.

Probably not what you're wanting to hear but I would highly discourage replacing her weapon. She is basically just like Nowi, a very good mixed tank with dc built in. You want to give her steady breath, quick riposte, distant def seal (if dedicated to another unit then deflect magic / close def), and aether. She will be incredibly sturdy and serve you well.

I'm just not sure why you would want to build her that way when her stats lend themselves so well to a mixed tank build.

Also that fortress build is uh.. special.

Here are my two cents on the build based on my personal thoughts, but honestly just stick with what works for you and/or makes you happy since personal builds are half the fun of the game:

1. Replacing a legendary weapon with native distant counter for a slaying weapon with some extra def/hp is the last thing I'd do on Fjorm because there's so many other lance users that utilise it better than her. It's literally the one thing that differentiates her from being a mediocre unit IMO because her atk and spd are mediocre to decent at best and really needs that ability to counter from distance and an A skill to boost her shortcomings. Half of the merit of mixed tanking is that you're able to retaliate against magic users by being able to threaten a KO on counterattack.

2. This also leads to my problem with Fortress Def/Res. FortDef set is virtually outclassed by Lukas, who has a much better def and atk for physical tanking with native killer lance + fort def at the cost of magic bulk. Unfortunately, 38 atk is literally pathetic to Ninian levels in this current meta where the average def is around 35+ for most bulky units. Breath skills are generally ideal for a tanky unit like Fjorm, but if you're relatively limited in budget stick with either Fury or her native atk/def bond (which is literally an upgrade from fort def with no atk penalty with like the easiest position requirement).

3. Units that rely purely on specials to deal dmg are pretty worthless unless if you have some form of CD reduction through skills or weapon passives because a lot of matchups are dependent on who procs their specials faster. This is why units like Felicia and Caeda were considered garbage tier before their weapon upgrades were released. Unfortunately, slaying weapons are not a great choice for reasons mentioned above.

4. This one is primarily my personal preference, but I'd prefer giving chill speed on a dedicated support unit like Eirika, healers or dancers. Duelist units like Fjorm are already in dire need of skills that directly increase their offensive potential like QR as opposed to debuff skills.

1, 2, & 3; Yeah, which is where my problem comes in. 46 Atk is far lower than any other DC unit, at least in my roster (Effie/W!Chrom - 59, Ike - 55, Hector/Free Ike - 52, Hardin/BK - 50, etc.) The closest one to her is W!Robin with 49, who, reaching 35 Def/Res and 40 speed, is a better mixed tank as well. And I know they're armored, so it isn't quite an apt comparison, but even W!Chrom is a better mixed tank with his massive HP pool and Wary Fighter.

In addition, since my lack of speed boosting abilities to the level where she can prevent doubles, it both hampers her defenses and attack power. She doesn't kill things as well as my other DC units, and she doesn't tank things as well as my other DC units. Her best thing about her is her ability to buff the speed stat up by +10 (Drive, Rally, and Blessing) which is great, but I'd like her to do a bit more than that.

4; You're right about Chill Speed, though, I'll probably put it on one of her teammates to get the most out of it. Probably Olivia, tbh.

I'm cheap. I'm leaving her with her base kit for now.

Most of these builds seem like you’re trying to make her into something she’s not. She has a fantastic base kit that suits her purpose as an enemy phase mixed tank. Points for creativity, but trying to make her into something she isn’t will leave you with a mediocre unit.

Put her with a buff bot that doesn’t leave her side and she’s g2g. I keep her with my Brave Lucy, but I might experiment with adding in Eirika now that she’s gotten a boost.