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Harmonic Lance vs Dauntless Lance

So I just gave Nephenee the Dauntless Lance and thought, hey this is pretty good. Then I went to summon on the sneaky summer or whatever and got a -spd Shigure. His Lance looks like it would be a good fit with wrath but idk. What would you do?

Asked by Civil5 months 2 weeks ago
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Harmonic Lance, Wrath and moonbow seems like overkill. I always wanted a Nephenee. IMO, I think her Dauntless Lance refine isn't worth is as she is probably considered as an offensive unit. I think Nephenee should inherit Harmonic Lance, it's seems like fun and overkill.

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Depends on your fodder...
If you have breath hitting +8def and procing a guaranteed 30+ bonfire on defense is uh... pretty damn good

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by Guts 5 months 3 weeks ago

Nephenee benefits much more from that -1 cd reduction that Slaying/Dauntless lance gives her, especially with wrath. +10 special damage is nice, but there is no way it can beat her prf weapon, as it gives not only the cd reduction for faster specials, but also armor effectivness, 2 more might and a potential special upgrade aside from the basic stat refines.

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Harmonic Lance will do slightly more damage in a round of combat where you take one hit, deal two hits and proc your special. It comes at the cost of not being able to proc your special twice in one combat, i.e. Wrath brings Moonbow's special down to 0, you hit your special, take a hit, you hit your special again. They are roughly equal in power, I think Slaying Lance has better synergy with Wrath.

Effectiveness against armors though is super powerful and great at patching up one of Nephenee's few weaknesses, so while Harmonic vs Slaying is whatever, Dauntless is way better than either.

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It's interesting, because if she's running moonbow and if you use her as an enemy phase unit, she might be better with it. Wrath would reduce Moonbow to 1CD, then Neph would tank an enemy hit, charging moonbow, and then retaliate with a +20 damage moonbow. Sounds strong and fun. But you'd have to get Wrath started up first, and it would take away from her player phase somewhat

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by Nilla 5 months 3 weeks ago

Dauntlesss is flat out better than harmonic, theres no reason to use anything BUT dauntless unless you're building a res tank, in which case you use berkuts lance.

Slaying+Anti Armor is already one of the best weapons in the game, it lets her deal with hectors much more easily, which previously were a major threat to her. Her special refine is also still one of hte best in the game because it doesnt quire allies to be near her like other skills, and has no conditionals outside of being enemy phase, which neph is already one of the best enemy phase units in the game.

Pop steady breath onto neph and shes getting +8 def on enemy phase, and since she's most likely doubling anyway, shes getting another +4 spd to basically ensure she doubles. Pop on close def seal and thats +14 def +6 res +4 spd on enemy phase, while reducing cooldown AND hitting armors where they hurt.

What does harmonic lance do? +10 when special triggers. Thats all. It's not worth it unless your doing a meme build, and even then dauntless is sitll better.

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