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Good offensive hero without support

So I was wondering, what would be some good options for offense ? I'm interested in seeing heroes that doesn't require team buffs or dance to shine during player phase.

For instance I find Lilina pretty strong as she can now kill most green, red and colorless units on initiation.

Do you know some other good units like that ?

Asked by Moshi6 months 4 weeks ago
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Well, if we're including skills too...

+M!Grima
+W!Chrom
+Effie
+Gerome
+Cherche
+Soleil
+Sanaki
+Lilina
+Arden
+Sothe
+Bartre
+Ares
+Julius
+Felicia

...I guess anyone that's not a Bladetome mage can be made into a good offensive unit without buffs.

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Well that's where I tend to disagree.
Do some damage calc if needed but not all those units aren't all that good for Player phase.

M!Grima with bold fighter maybe yeah, same for w chrom and effie.
Gerome is more of a tank, lemme know a build that can kill as many as lilina.
Cherche OK
Soleil is decent, but without buffs from her team she won't kill that many.
Arden OK.
Sothe is decent but same, not so many kills without buffs.
Barte ? Player phase ?
Ares is much more ennemy phase.
Julius ?? Player phase again, not ennemy.
And felicia can kill a few things but not that many without heavy support from team.

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It mostly depends on what you're trying to do. Building a unit isn't the same for everyone, so while some people build a unit as a tank, someone else can build the same unit as an offensive powerhouse.

Gerome with Brave Axe and Death Blow 3
Cherche with Brave Axe
Soleil with Firesweep Sword
Arden with Brave Sword and his Recover Ring
Sothe can actually pull off Desperation
Bartre can be a fast Player Phase unit, believe it or not
Ares - depends on how you build him
Julius - yeah, probably right
Felicia can pull off Desperation and kill a lot with Glacies.

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Let me know how you get your bartre a fast player phase unit without buffs ? Because even with spd iv, spd refine, LnD, and spd seal he only gets up to 40 which is pretty average nowadays.

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Which is why Spd Smoke, or Threaten Spd, exists. He has more than enough HP and defense to survive an engagement, allowing him to lower the opponent's speed. Speed Smoke is preferred since it's a 7 speed decrease, but that requires actual engagement to take affect while Threaten Spd only requires you to be near a unit, and it's fairly easy to bait units, especially melee units, to get within range of a Threaten skill.

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It's interesting but not so much what I need. I'm more looking for unit that can just attack and get a kill. Spd smoke can't get him a kill on this turn, so he needs to bait the ennemy to debuff them.

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It depends are merges included and 5* exclusives,for me it's my ayra with her player phase build she hits 55atk and 54 spd on initiation with no support,she is also equipped with wrath for a boosted regnal astra,but Ik not everyone has a high merged ayra realistically speaking.

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Brave Bow Bold Fighter Jakob, both Reinhardts and Celicas don't need much support, although they're obviously not on the same level as Jakob.

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