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Good Distant Counter Blue Unit?

Hey guys, I got a spare Hector recently, so it's time for another game of who gets DC. I think a strong Blue unit would be good. I'm sort of torn between Effie and LA Eliwood, but i'm open to suggestions. I'd like a nice mixed build if possible.

Asked by Lightblade74 months 2 weeks ago
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Yah, go on and do that, use the most basic generic cookie-cutter build ever. It requires no skill or thought just slap the same thing everyone else does. Or you could you know put some effort in and make something worthwhile. Or you could just save your Hector depending on your IV's there's enough Effies running around with Berkut's Lance and Distant Counter in the Arena don't be that guy.

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Hey man, if it's common then it must be working. I know how annoying they are for me in Grand Conquests, so it must work like a charm.
I'd do Vengeful fighter over Wary though

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It annoys me that everyone uses the same thing, her build is cheap and she dies in three seconds to my Black Knight who has a type disadvantage so I mean does it really work???

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He is asking for a enemy phase blue unit, with good mix defenses, and Effie is that unit, with wary fighter, she can bait enemies and survive, unless effective weapons are involved. I dont see the problem with that.

My effie is the basic player phase unit with BF and Brave Lance, but he's not asking for that.

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I have a DC Florina (+Atk -HP) with Slaying Spear + Swordbreaker and she destroys nearly every mage and nearly every armoured unit and Ayra is no big threat to me anymore :D
With Glacies and Flier buffs she can even OR kill a M!Grima (he was merged but i don't know if he was +10).

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I don't ever remember Ayra or Karla ever being a threat to me in any mode. Probably because I have a Black Knight with 57 Defense so they just melt like butter and most times they don't have enough speed to make a follow up attack on my BK either because they're too slow or they're dead.

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Peri is pretty good,oboro,donnel,Matilda has high res etc.

If those 2 are your choices I would go with effie.

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Donnel is a nice unit for Distant Counter. Take this from someone that's spent months making a +10 Donnel. I gave him Berkut's Lance (arguably the best Distant Counter-combo Lance to use for mixed/res tanks), Aether, Distant Counter, Vantage, and Quick Riposte seal, and he's amazing when it comes to tanking both physical and magical hits aside from nuisances like Bladetome Nino, and that could possibly be remedied with the usage of Panic Ploy in the C slot (which I'm currently working on).

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by cypher 4 months 2 weeks ago

A distand counter is an enemy phase unit. It requires the best Def and Res possible. And, if possible, both.
Neither qualify.

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...I don't know if I should take this seriously. A Distant Counter unit doesn't "require" the "best" Def and Res possible, it requires enough to survive to run a good Vantage set (see Ares, WT!Reinhardt, etc), or to actually tank and still have a fair bit of HP left over, or some way to heal.

Florina has quite 'not good' defense, but amazing resistance... Guess she's an awful Distant Counter user. :l

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by Seeker 4 months 2 weeks ago

Effie is a good choice with Berkut's Lance; LA Eliwood I don't remember too well but if my memory serves he'll do fine.

If you want to be more solid, choose Gwendolyn. Significantly less offensively threatening than Effie, but people tell me she's rock-solid. (And vengeful ignis/glacies will delete a lot of things.)

If you want infantry I would actually recommend Nowi. The done-to-death steady breath + aether + QR combo is extremely powerful, especially in PvE. Adaptive damage is great, and lots of melee units have low res. (That's probably my main reason for picking her besides DC being on her weapon so she can use steady breath.)

However, if you definitely want a lance, I'd look at Donnel and Oboro. I don't like it on Lukas, though with Berkut's Lance it can probably work. Donnel is better if you want to try a bit of mixed phase stuff; he can be fairly fast while tanking so he might still double during player phase.

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