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Fjorm is IS answer for rein!?
So i did some quick calculations:
40 hp and 20+3(from fury) res fjorm with deflect magic vs optimal rein with glimer
Like she tanks and proceeds to destroy him thanks to her special with shield pulse
NOTE: her hp and res hasnt been released so this is just speculation. But even with average hp and below average res i wanted to show tha she can still tank rein
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Tsk! Dont be effin rude dude
Ye but like....
A) shes ftp-everyone will have her. (Granted at this point rein checks shouldnt be an issue as everyone should have a few rein counters)
B) she needs no investment-just slap deflect magic (no dc or ta needed)
C) shes an infantry unit with a legendary weapon-mages wont lower ur score(if shes on rotation this will be HUGE)
D) most importantly...shes still a decent blue lance unit outside of checking rein-u wont be boged down with a unit thats built to counter certain units
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She is an okay unit allright, but if your argument for making her a rein counter is slapping deflect magic seal, then any non-red unit (an even some bulky reds too, like joshua) with distant counter and the deflect seal can do the same, so does that make them rein counters too? doubt it.
She is a good unit, and has a high bst, so she may be good for arena scoring, but as to how good she will be that remains to be seen, her spread isnt too min-maxed, and that has always hurt those kind of heroes in the past.
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I actually think the same. Most non red unit with Okayish res and deflect magic can tank rein. Thoses that can counter at range will likely kill him.
I don't really think deflect magic would be optimal on her as it will literally only block rein.
Also optimal Rein with glimmer :/ I disagree on this. The optimal Rein is usually going with moonbow + QP for insta moonbow proc.
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Based on what we know, yes she can likely tank Rein, but she will sit at roughly 25% health after that. She doesn't hit hard enough to OHKO any non-glass cannon meta sword, so you can't run her as a dedicated Reinhardt counter AND sword counter, meaning you'll have to bring someone else for that. Oh, and you will still need a B!Lyn counter. This really starts to reduce your options in team building.
It seems to me like you would still run either a gronraven user or Fae, both of whom can tank both Rein and B!Lyn in the same arena round.
Fjorm is obviously a good unit but pretty low on my list of meta counters to Reinhardt. If anything, her being good would just make it an even more obvious choice to run Fae or a Gronraven mage.
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Just fyi...a 60 atk GREEN mage with TA would have to DOUBLE her to get the ko thanks to distant def.
Similarly for a GREEN blade mage with 60 atk.... And if their def is less than 20 there is a chance she kos them on the counter.....
Like she can run lots of sets...and still check rein or tank blyn.
Fury vantage
Ta breaker
Her base set.
TA close def
And im not saying that she is as good a TA raven or fae to check both blyn and rein just that shes a really solid unit with universal access, and good out of the box skills to check him
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