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Ethlyn is good, y'all.

I'm glad Ethlyn turned out to be a decent F2P option for a healer, and she comes with decent skills nonetheless.

(All paragraphs surrounded by brackets compare her to other units at neutral IVs with no merges.)

[Ethlyn has the highest BST of all cavalry healers at 146, 1 more than Priscilla, Elise, and Maribelle. (For those who care.)]

The two biggest stats she has going for her are her Speed and Defense.

[She has the 3rd highest Defense of all healers at 26 (And the highest Defense of all cavalry healers, beating Clarine by 4 points.) She is only passed by Azama at 32 and Lissa at 28.]

[She also has the second highest speed at 34, tied with Nanna, Bridal Lyn, and Maria, and only beaten by Brave Veronica.]

[However, she is very comparable to Nanna. The main difference between the two is that their Defense and Resistance values are swapped. Ethlyn has 38/28/34/26/20 while Nanna has 36/27/34/21/26.]

And simply being a cavalry unit makes her even better, as she has access to Cavalry Buffs, being able to easily increase her stats by 6 each thanks to allies.

She will come with Fear+, Physic+, Spd/Def Bond 3 (5☆), and Live To Serve 3 (4☆). I've heard that she'll come with Heavenly Light and I've heard she won't come with a special at all, I guess time will tell. Not the best skills, but they're workable.

Aside from lack of merges and IVs, (*cougharenatryhards*) Ethlyn is actually pretty good in her own right, a great F2P option for people who didn't pick Brave Veronica as their Free CYL Summon.

Also, she has great voice lines and art (IMO), so that's always a bonus.

I just thought I'd give a quick analysis, since it's likely that most people will find her underwhelming.

Asked by Pacmaniac3 months 3 weeks ago

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I guess IS really wants the community to have a cavalry healer.

and I don't mind her and I'm kinda glad that we don't get a sword unit this time.

I really like that they gave us a healer from the Tempest this time, it's something a little more new and different, ya know?

Not only she's a good F2P unit, HER ART IS CUTE! Why? Because she's drawn by kaya8 (Azura and Katarina's artist)

Don't forget Fir.

Her art is great and she's a pretty good healer from what it seems.

Wait what????

instant 5* I guess.(I love katarina that's why i love kaya8)

I'm actually surprised by her speed stat. While her attack is on the low side, her speed is fairly decent. Spd/Def Bond is a nice skill for fodder (you probably wouldn't have her tanking anything due to her fairly low defense and HP) or you can replace it with something else.

Easy option for builds is Pain+++, you can use her for more support and keep her Fear+ for giving your units more tankability.

Definitely happy with her.

I really like healers, every TT i upgrade one to 5*, and would love to have one for free.

This situation is a win win for me.

The main reason why people find her underwhelming is due to that 28 atk. It doesn't matter if her stats are higher than most other Troubadours, since def and res aren't exactly stats for a healer to worry about...well maybe res imo, but it doesn't seem like people agree when it comes to Veronica. That 28 atk really limits her ability to pull of the razzledazzle combo that everybody loves using, but aside from that, Ethlyn is a good simple healer for those who have that incurable disease I call "earlylowraritybadunit-itis." However, if that's the case, and you jus want a healer for healing, then choosing someone like Priscilla or Nanna wouldn't make much of a difference, plus they have access to IVs. Glad it's not a lance/sword unit though

28 base attack, which can be increased by an Attack +3 A slot, or Seal, and Horse buffs.

31 attack with an Attack A slot.
37 with Hone Cavalry.
40 with an Attack Seal.

Not the greatest, but I don't really see the issue. :<

The Atk stat isn't that important for a healer, My Azama for example is -atk/+def, fort def, pain+ dazzle refine and guard.
The idea is to inflict cheap damage and negate enemies charges with guard, and survive two attacks if necesary.

Most people will find her underwhelming because she is.

I'll give it to you straight.
Ethlyn is the second worst cavalry healer, and arguably tied for worst. Priscilla with a good boon already matches her offenses, and has a much better defensive spread for a healer. She can also be merged. Nanna is superior offensively and defensively, especially when considering boons, and Elise is straight up superior to Nanna, and Maribelle is superior to Elise. Veronica trumps everyone. The only cav healer that Ethlyn at +0 may have an edge against is Clarine, but Clarine is not TT locked so that kind of goes out the window.

She might not be the best healer in the game but she is far from the worst. Ethlyn is good for what she offers to all players, newer and more casual players can get a decent free healer, older and more competitive players can get Bond fodder since they're likely not going to care for her as she doesn't perform as well compared to others, it's a win win.

But still, just because she's the 2nd worst cavalry healer in the game, your words not mine, it doesn't mean she isn't good in her own right with what she offers.

I didn't say she was bad, healers are in a good spot and cavalry healers are better than infantry. Aside from stats, she has nice art too. But I'm looking at a long-winded post about her not being bad and I'm sorry but her stats aren't great and she is the only TT locked healer so she's pretty screwed. Sucks for her but it is what it is.

Not great stats, I'll admit, but good enough.

That's also why I love building Tempest and GHB units. They are stuck with what they have statwise with no customizations to it, so it's my job to figure out a way to make them work. It's a nice challenge.

I made my Canas good, I made my Tobin good, I made my Clive good, I can do the same for Ethlyn.

You got a nice Canas man

"Elise is straight up better" for attacking yes, but if you like healers who can take a hit, Elise isn't ideal at all. Your evaluations are very obviously focused on offensive potential, and for players like me who aren't so concerned with how much damage they do because I would use them mainly to heal and to be annoying with dazzle. I'm looking at a reply that suggests preoccupation with just doing as much damage as possible at all times with everything while having little appreciation for robustness in a class that tends to be a bit frail but doesn't necessarily have to be. If you ever run into a merged wrazzle dazzle pain+ or fear+ double savage blow close counter Clarine, she is deceptively disruptive, much more so I would say than most cavalry healers who would die much more easily.

Bit of a delayed response but I am not just looking at offensive potential. I'm looking at potential as a utility unit, which healers are. Naturally, their offenses matter more than their defenses because they are impervious to counter-attacks and they stay out of harm's way. Also, your attack value is used for healing. Defensive stats matter little, but of the two defenses, resistance matters more. Elise is better equipped at being a healer, supporter, or however you want to build her. Ironically Elise has better magic soak than Ethlyn does too, despite you talking about her being worse defensively. If you wanted to build her defensively (which you shouldn't do for a healer, but let's do it anyway), Elise still outperforms in every case except for as a physical tank. And let's be real, if you are basing your argument on a cavalry healer's physical defense, you're kinda reaching. And by "kinda" I mean a lot.

But that's the thing, though. Ethlyn is the best physically tanky cavalry healer. She has 26 base defense, which is the 3rd highest neutral defense stat of all healers in the game. She also has 34 base speed, which is the 2nd highest speed stat of all healers in the game. You can build her like most other healers if you wanted to, or you could try to capitalize off of her high defense, which is not something you can do on Elise as well given her 19 base defense.

Elise has the better resistance, but Ethlyn has the better defense, allowing for a different style of play.

And Elise has lower speed than Ethlyn, neutral stats anyway, and there's no guarantee when you'll actually get Elise anyway. I've played for a little over a year and I just got my first Elise, and, if memory serves right, she has a speed bane.

That's just really weak though man. I'm not trying to be rude, but you are basically saying "Ethlyn is better than Elise at doing what healers aren't supposed to be doing". Building a healer around physical defense means you are taking all of the advantages of a healer (the big one being their ability to negate followups) and focusing on their weakest stat. Let me put it this way. Defense and HP are the least useful stat for a healer, all things considered. Ethlyn has most of her points allocated to exactly those. I'm not really sure what else to say on the matter, that kinda covers it.

I mean.. what you're supposed to do with a healer doesn't matter because there is no right or wrong when it comes to how you build your units.

With that same logic, every sword unit that doesn't go for nothing but attack and speed are built wrong. Close Counter Absorb+ Lachesis? Wrong. Close Counter high defense mages? Well, they should focus on hitting as hard as they can to make use of units with low res, so Close Counter builds shouldn't be considered.

Just because most people build their healers to be physically and (sometimes) magically weak doesn't mean that's their least useful stat.

Ethlyn's one of the tankiest healers that we have in the game (well, when we get her anyway) and not even considering the possibility of having her built to take advantage of her higher-than-normal defense is more of a fault of yours than the person that's trying to capitalize off of it.

Just my opinion anyway.

If you confine yourself to a preconceived idea of what a healer is "supposed" to do, then yes Elise will outdo Ethlyn. That's a more traditional way for a healer, and Ethlyn is not as good at it. If you're willing to lay aside what you normally expect out of a healer, you can get something quite different.

Not all healers need to abuse wrathful dazzle. You would be wasting to do it on Azama.
Not all healers need to ploy. Lu Bu's Sakura should make this abundantly obvious.
Not all healers need to fit into some cookie cutter mould or get shoved into predetermined squares that supposedly tell them what they should or should not do.

Generalizations get formed about healers because a lot of them have statlines that look like 29/32/18/32 which lend themselves to exploiting wrathful dazzle and ploying. However, the statlines that look like 28/25/25/34 (Lachesis and Lissa, for example) have existed for a while, and people have already figured out that you can play wrathful absorb+ without dazzle on them. But it's the statline that decides what the unit should aspire to do and not the other way around. I would go so far as to say that saying otherwise is potentially presumptious because it requires assuming, before even looking at the statline, what the unit is supposed to do, and the statline is a really important indicator of what the unit really is and is meant for. I don't think it's different in principle from trying to tell someone else who they are without ever knowing them.

I have found you fairly diplomatic and able to be reasoned with, at least, more so than certain persons we see around here, but I also find your perspective to be overly insistent on preconceived generalizations.