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+ Def -Spd Legault - Is there anything I can do to help him?

I wanted Legault since he showed his face to FEH, and it took me until now for him to finally show up - but he’s sadly + Def -Spd, and I don’t know if/when I’ll get another one, so I want to know if there’s anything I can do to salvage him (no, I’m not going to fodder him either)

He’s currently planned to go on a team with PA!Shigure, Summer Elise, and Canas as their “shoot it’s got high res” killer, so I’m just not sure what to do in order to help him fill the role.

Asked by SaltLobster5 months 3 weeks ago
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I personally prefer Smoke Dagger. I never really found his The Cleaner to be all that.... reliable, to be honest. It's too heavy on the "the enemy needs buffs" thing, and there really is no way to actually buff your enemies, or at least no way that I can think of.

Legault is a dagger unit, so his main role, like most daggers, is more "support" and utility. Smoke Dagger can debuff all of the enemy's stats by 6 (and it's an AoE effect), allowing your other squad member's to have an easier time dealing with them.

Or..

If you do keep his The Cleaner, then you can debuff the enemy's defense and resistance by 7, then give him Atk Smoke C and Spd Smoke Seal, allowing him to pull off a faux Smoke Dagger while keeping his buff-slaying effect.

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If I were to give him Smoke Dagger, as well as Atk Smoke and Speed Smoke, would those stack?

I think I’ll look into Smoke Dagger for him - I initally planned to give him S!Kagero’s carrot, but not if it won’t help him...

Better question: would Barb Shuriken be alright for Legault if I gave him attack Smoke?

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No, they do not stack. Smoke Dagger gives a visible debuff. If you were to put Atk and Spd Smoke on him while having him with Smoke Dagger, then it would only give a -6 debuff to Def and Res, and a -7 debuff to atk and spd.

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by Seeker 5 months 3 weeks ago

He is definitely playable. He's so fast to begin with that the bane leaves him at above-average speed. To demonstrate the point, he starts with the same speed as neutral B.Cordelia/S.Takumi, and he's faster than neutral Sothe, Saizo, and Kaze.

You need to consider what teams he might want to be on. He can still play a windsweep build, but with the spd bane there are better candidates. He can become quite good at baiting enemy daggers and archers (most notably B.Lyn, who has poor defenses) by pushing his speed just high enough to block their double and then doubling them back with QR and throwing a moonbow in their face (or bonfire with barb shuriken).

If you like his native weapon, you can set him up specifically to put the hurt on emblem bows and daggers. Use atk/def bond and atk+3 seal. When they hit you with a hone or fortify, you counter with 63 atk, which is fairly likely to bust them in one shot. I prefer barb shuriken + glimmer, but if you don't have the feathers to fodder that way, this is probably the best one-shot attempt.

Alternatively, you can just say "I have moderately good def" and start firing away at people, use brazen atk/spd and desperation, survive the first hit because you have 27 def, and enter desperation.

One interesting hybrid build made possible by the introduction of starfish is desperation + QR without hogging the QR seal. I can't say I especially like this because Legault doesn't hit that hard, but it's a decent build. Starfish+spd, moonbow, brazen atk/spd, QR, flashing blade once the tempest trials begin. The point is that you bait some dagger/bow, block their double, double them back, and now your brazen is active and you go on a rampage with 50 atk 44 spd, and everybody who you double gets a moonbow.

One last option is a build I saw on a Kagero who completed a solo of the Linus GHB: rogue dagger+def, moonbow/bonfire, close counter, vantage (could substitute desperation/QR/anything else), atk smoke, close def. Debuff them, achieve 42 def at melee range (49 if you count atk smoke), close counter everybody to death.

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I was actually training up a 4* Kaze to give Legault Barb Shuriken, so that works out nicely!

Toying with what I know I have, I’m sitting with Legault more than likely having-
Barb Shuriken + (refine pending)
Draw Back
Glimmer
Brazen Atk/Spd
Desperation
Atk Smoke
And the Atk +3 seal to keep him hitting hard.

His team as of now (this is also subject to change)

PA!Shigure:
Dancer’s Score + (refine pending)
Sing
Luna
HP + 5
Gesyer Dance 2
Breath of Life 3
Breath of Life 3
(Ideally he’s to chip damage and heal his allies, then sing his allies to buff their def/res on the foe’s turn. I dunno what I was doing with his A skill)

Canas:
Red Owl Tome (Refine Pending)
Reciprocal Aid
Iceberg
(Tbh the only thing with Canas that’s set in stone is he’s using his base tome and running Iceberg and Fortress Res seal. All else can be changed)

Summer Elise (-def +res)
Hibicus Tome + (I’m probably gonna refine for Speed)
Rally Attack & Res
(Like Canas she’s up for suggestions, the only thing I have on her rn is Green Tome Breaker, and I’m still not sure what to do for her)

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Ok this really changes things. That team definitely wants as much def as it will get, so they will be thankful for Legault's def boon and atk smoke.

I find questionable to run the healing build when you're using brazen + desperation and S.Elise is on the team, who probably also needs to use desperation. You will very easily heal someone out of the HP range where they want to be, and it can get tricky trying to position your units to avoid it. Hone atk + hone spd might be better for him.

I'm puzzled what you want to do with 38 res, but the first thing I think to give him as a C-skill is definitely atk ploy. That might be a bit redundant with atk smoke. You could consider spd ploy instead. My inclination is to refine his tome for def and use close counter + QR. Try to tank two hits and bust them with an iceberg. Quite dangerous, with the kinds of swords we have running around, but who else on the team is going to provide def?

Summer Elise I think is best with a blade tome, but if you're going to keep her native tome, she probably wants to focus on busting blues that Canas can't handle. P.Shigure can probably cover tomes with a breaker (but he needs to be careful against Reinhardt), which would leave her against lances. However, with her res she's actually doing quite well against blue tomes, so maybe P.Shigure should take the lances. He has better def but no colour advantage to blunt their attack; I guess that makes them about equal there.

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I confess that this team is really made up of every mage I have that I can’t cram onto another team, and Legault. That’s why Shigure’s built weird, he was initially the healer/dancer for three armor units, but in favor of a pure Armor team he got shafted and I didn’t have room for him.

Sorry this team seems to be your new headache.

I can definately move Shigure around for Atk & Speed hones, set Canas up to be the dangerous Counter with QR, and I was intending Legault to chip up things if the mages couldn’t handle it. I do like the idea of running Canas dangerously - I might keep Shigure’s healing build for Canas and rework Elise and Legault some.

Thank you for all your help! I super appreciate it.

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