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Close counter seal

Exactly what the title says. Pretty sure we only have 2 units that have close counter, with 1 being a seasonal unit too. What are your guys thoughts on having close counter as a seal? Think we might get one anytime soon?

Asked by Jpod2 months 4 weeks ago
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Seems too powerful to be a seal imo, but not as powerful as DC as a seal.

Not to be that guy, but 3 units have Close Counter, 2 seasonals. Takumi, Winter Tharja, Festival Xander

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It wouldn't be nearly as strong and you think it would be, the main reason being that anything that can use close counter now, typically uses their seal slot for whatever skill would normally be on the A slot, like close defense. That combined with how ranged units cant get breath skills, it really wouldnt be anywhere close to game changing.

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I didn't say "stronger". I said "strong".

But I could change that statement by saying they could utilize Bond Skills or Solo Skills with a CC seal.
Or Brazens
Or Fierce Stance or any Dual Stance that isn't Bracing.

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bond skills are generally overrated, solo skills are better, however any units that could make effective use of those skills wouldnt be playing defensively, which is what close counter is.

Brazens would be a good choice, while stance skills are just generally bad because their choice of stat bonus is too finicky. Brazen def/res christmas tharja thats also rocking close counter would be fantastic.

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There's exactly one Solo skill out right now, and it's not super great. The condition for Bond skills is easy to achieve, and you can make use of things like Spur skills and Ally support (and keeping up Hone/Fortify) while you're at it. Bonds are pretty great.

Brazens are pretty cool though. They're generally just a bit better than Bond skills

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Atk/Def Bond? That's more of a defensive bond. So is Spd/Def Bond in a way. And Bond Skills synergize very well with Owl Tomes.

Steady Stance should suffice as a budget option for most units if they had a Close Counter seal. (Once Silas gets demoted, of course.) Bonds and Solos are harder to get. (There's only one Solo right now though.)

Solo Skills work better for CC units who wouldn't use an Owltome, which in a way is a bit of a disadvantage compared to Bonds, as you'd rather use an Owltome with Bonds for more stats. Archers besides Innes (which doesn't make a great CC unit anyway) are the only ranged units who use Solos better than Bonds with CC, currently. That is unless an inheritable Owlbow comes out since Nidhogg is getting refined.

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Honestly, with the Duel skills, you never know, we may get a surge of A-slot skills as seals for IS to try and justify them. I've been waiting on a Triangle Adept seal so my Leo can use both CC and TA with a Raven tome.for Arena Assault. If the other way around ends up happening I'd be happy.

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i doubt it, it would be incredibly stupid on IS's part to do something like that. And it doesn't have to much to do with it being "game breaking" or anything. You said it yourself, only like, 3 units have close counter, and two of them are seasonals. It makes it rare, it makes it valuable, it makes people want to put more effort (money) into getting units that have it. Getting a close counter seal is as unrealistic as getting a bold fighter seal.
Plus, they already gave us all a free takumi, why the heck would they give us another CC for free?

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Flashing blade is nowhere near as coveted as close counter, lets be honest. Not as many people will throw money at banners to get a Mia, as opposed to how many people would pay for a winter tharja or that festival xander or something.
Plus, we never got a free Mia. We got a free takumi instead, so it wouldn't make sense for them to also give us a seal for CC, when they already have given it to us normally.

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by Tandor 2 months 4 weeks ago

No.

However, I could see a more limited version that only works within an HP threshold being a thing, but regular CC - no.

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