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Close Counter On? S!Corrin or Cecilia?

Got a free Takumi from the Threaten SPD banner (Yay me) and he'll likely never see the light of day because I have Brave Lyn as my main archer and Klein as my secondary.

So I've opted to feed him to one of my team buffed (flying/horsies) Bladetome users because they don't particularly need an A slot to further argument their damage as they have more than enough already. And Close Counter makes them nasty at all ranges. Quite silly I might add xD

So that means either my +RES -SPD S!Corrin or my Neutral Cecilia. I ran the Calcs and Corrin wins around 9 or 10 more matchups BUT my Horse Emblem team is my main team and my Fliers hardly see any usage at all because my Horse team is so much better than my Fliers

So use Cecilia to enhance my top team even further or use Corrin to revitalize a dead team?

Asked by Way2much1 year 2 months ago

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Are you sure Cecilia's defense are OP for a close counter ??
Mine gets beaten by any red / green / grey threats on defense ... She shouldn't be baiting anything.

I love the idea though.
Don't you have a Leo ? He has better defenses than Cecilia, can run a blade horse build. With quick riposte he is nice (even though not really meta-adapted).

Wow. I just ran the calcs, she performs extremely well
o.o
47 wins against blue (1 draw)
33 wins against green (3 draw)
13 wins against red (21 losses, 20 draws)
33 wins against greys (1 loss, 4 draws)

Do it.

Haha yeah its pretty busted. If Horses didn't have such low BST, my Arena runs would be a breeze. On my calcs, she only loses 11 match ups running CC, Vantage, Threaten Def, Moonbow and HP+3 and has 1 draw.

Running the same set up, Corrin has 8 losses and 1 draw. But I might just go with Cecilia because of how much better horses are (for me anyway) That 3 difference isn't that much if you think about it.

Yeah, it’s an extremely good idea because Cecilia’s A-Slot barely affects her match-ups at all, which means CC!Vantage is an amazing combo with Cavalry buffs.

As for Corrin, it’s a little less powerful than Cecilia, however since yours is -Spd, the combo should work wonders as well.

I would go with Cecilia since she performs better with it and has the potential to get better IVs unlike Corrin. However, unless you’re merging, I would wait for one with +Atk.

Based on my calcs, Corrin is a little better at running it but as a whole, based on team comps, I agree that Cecilia edges it out. Rein, Brave Lyn and Xander/Elise/Titania make better teammates than Cherche/Hinoka/Palla.

I'll probably wait until the end of the Performing Arts banner as I'll be pulling a lot of greens to try and get Azura. +ATK would be ideal but its not groundbreaking without it imo.

Are you sure? I’m pretty sure it’s just due to her speed, maybe try enemy phase in Vantage range and see how it changes. She won’t be staying at full HP for very long.

Edit: You should also check the match-ups CC improves in comparison, not just the total.

You’re right that IVs don’t matter much for Cecilia, but she’s common enough to wait for better IVs in my opinion, and it can be situationally more useful in practice.

Just did an overall mass sim using the one from Github. Obviously not a super accurate representation but just wanted a vague idea of how they work. Cecilia is probably better in more practical terms.

Hopefully I get a +ATK one soon then because I'm kinda itching to make this build and the more time I waste is the less time I have to starting farming SP! LOL

Technically you can start farming on the neutral for skills until you get the +Atk one. This way you can either merge the neutral over either at 4 star for the skills or promote both to 5 for the merge and skills. (Maybe save CC until you get the +Atk just to be safe with your feathers and investment)

The 4 star should honestly be good enough with Blade to do work, unless you need it for Arena of course.

Agreed. Cecilia with CC and vantage is deadly for both Arena Offense and defense.

i have a cecilia 4stars +10 merges, and let me tell you that build is amazing, she can even survive +atk , no merge, deathblow effie and brave lance, with the buffs from horce emblem she can tank all blues,but if they have buffs at least effie is going to destroy you if you plan to tank her, i used effie as standar beacuse is the blue with more atk and with the brave weapon build and reinhardt is piece of cake, brave lyn is always going to win the match because of mulagir, brave weapons are your weakness.

Save it, if Arvis will be armored, you'll thank yourself. If not, just look at the other comments.