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Build a +spd Takumi or feed close counter to NY!Corrin?

So I got a +spd takumi by chance a few weeks ago, but haven't gotten any ideas on how to decently build him (even after excessive testing). His bane is -def which makes is harder because he can't fully utilize his close counter skill.
I'm thinking on passing on close counter to NY!Corrin, because I know he would be a beast with it since of how much def he has. This is the build I have in mind for him. Essentially I'm trying to make a better Takumi, but I don't want to waste the close counter because of how difficult it is to pull him to begin with.

Corrin (M) (Happy New Year!) (5★+1)
HP 40/ATK 45/ SPD 30/DEF 37/RES 18
Weapon: Slaying Bow+
Refine: Def Bonus - Advanced Ranged
Assist: Rally Defense Resistance
Special: Bonfire
A: Close Counter
B: Vantage 3
C: Spur Def Res 2
S: Quick Riposte 3

Asked by tyleto11 months 1 week ago

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If you got Micaiah, I feel she is a better Close Counter user as she's effective against the many oppressive armor units, not to mention being able to counter Sigurd then also since his anti-mage effects only work when he's defending.

I do have her, +atk-res actually, but I'm not so sure-
I kinda wanted to run a death blow+desperation+brash assault on her because sacrifice leaves her at just the right amount of hp for that.Also I'm aware of sigurd, he lived a 68x2 during the tempest.

Precisely why Close Counter Vantage is the better set.

Divine Tyrfing and Crusader's Ward are for when Sigurd is defending, not attacking ;)

And at +Atk, oof that's gonna hurt.

I have fought a few Sigurds in the arena when Winter Tharja was a bonus unit. That Sigurd deflected Tharja's first counterattack.... so it works either phase.

If Micaiah wants to ORKO Sigurd, she needs Death Blow during player phase or give her an attack buff and trigger Res Ploy on Sigurd to ensure the kill, or have a special like Iceberg ready for him.

NY. Corrin sucks compare to Faye.

I was not aware.
Also no Faye.

Don't be such a downer, this guy's just trying to use a free-to-play unit, likely for PvE.

That and I wanna make use of all the 5*s I get. Makes it easier for me on different situations. That and I like M!Corrin and his normal version isn't the best (although I do have a build for him).

Exactly! No reason to waste a perfectly good unit, maybe not Halloween Jakob or Brave Lyn, but up there among the better archers for sure!

I still recommend Close Counter for Micaiah. Don't know if you ran the calcs with that, but with +Atk and Atk+3 seal, you could OHKO a lot of Red units and armor and cav units.

I have both of those actually, but my H!Jakob is +spd-hp so he's just on the sidelines. B!Lyn doesn't need any investment to be a great unit really.

I'll look into that, although I really am leaning on the NY!Corrin since I can't find much else for him that puts him over 100 kills.

Alright, sorry if it feels like I'm forcing you into it, but with the current meta, that Micaiah build just will be so much better.

Corrin is mostly a bow and dagger counter who Spurs, Rallys, and buffs your friends' defenses.

No no it's fine, I'm looking for second opinions and its nice to hear what others think. I'm the one who asked anyway. If you go up a little bit and look at picture I posted in a reply, he's useful for much more than that if given the right build.

With some proper building, NY Corrin could be as strong as some of the top tier archers.

Faye is nothing special. NY Corrin has much more utility. I’ve had Faye since she came out and she had collected dust on my bench because her IVs, even when optimal, are garbage. She’s better as fodder, whereas Corrin can run some pretty strong builds.

Exactly why I'd want to give CC to NY!Corrin, I know I'd use him a lot more than I would Takumi, but I don't wanna wave around CC like it isn't worth a lot.

I know there's only a few units that can use it good anyway and I also know that NY!Corrin is one of them, but for whatever reason I'd like some second opinions.

It really just depends on your teams. If you ran a blade horse team, a Leo with neutral DEF and even a RES bane could make excellent use of CC since his buffed DEF gets to 31, which would mean a 70 ATK (or 59 TA) would be required to one hit kill him on the physical side, or a 51 with follow up (which unfortunately wouldn’t be hard for even mediocre speed units) but his ability to still run it and be able to check green melee threats along with a good amount of sword units makes him a viable option. Some builds of Cecilia are also pretty good with CC, and then there’s the obvious ranged armor units. Beyond that, not many units have respectable attack and defense while being ranged.

...NY!Corrin is one as well, which is who I'm mainly debating on giving it to because all my other units work perfectly as they are. I'm mainly unsure if I should BUILD the Takumi, or scrap him for a better build but on a different unit.

Corrin would use CC much better than a -DEF Takumi. So I’d say feed Corrin a taco.

A +spd Corrin is actually something really useful, even as a -def, since speed the only stat he should excell at besides atk
I'd suggest you to give him either windsweep or watersweep, although I recommend watersweep since it is easier to obtain. And for a sacred seal phantom speed is alright, but It may be better to give him just a regular speed seal
And to give someone CC I think it would be a better idea to wait until some other unit that's more available than Takumi has CC or you get another one with bad IVs

I think you read it wrong, my Takumi is +spd-def and I'm debating if I should give NY!Corrin CC, since he could really make good use of it tagged along with vantage and QR3 seal.