I know this question has been asked a million times but would it be better to have warding breath and vengful fighter or breath and quick riposte
The breath and vengeful fighter wouldn't stack so it wouldn't be necessary to use up a Grima or Christmas Tharja on someone that has breath or you're planning to give breath to. I would suggest using Bold Fighter instead that way your cooldown can decrease even more on both phases and maybe use a quick riposte seal
Neglecting the potential cost of killing a grima, how is QR better than vengeful? QR DOES NOT grant cool down acceleration, vengeful does.
As for warding/steady breath I’m not sure if they can be compared because it’s a bit reliant on the unit itself, which I don’t think has been mentioned.
Vengeful fighter works up till 50%. which means your amored unit is way more likely to keep it even after multiple engagements (esp if running an aether set with armor buffs)
So even without the cooldown reduction (due to a breath skill making it redundant). Vengeful fighter is still a better qr.
If you dont have vengeful fighter coming at ya left and right, then ye, qr with steady breath is more than enough to fit ur needs
Hi! I use Steady Breath and Vengeful Fighter on my MGrima and it's awesome!
Some people knee jerk react by saying they don't stack. Well those people probably don't focus on enemy phase bait and kill strategy and furthermore cooldown bonuses generally don't stack XD But the important thing to note is that SB gives cool down bonus when you get hit and VF give cool down bonus when you hit back, so yes it will fire off your special much faster that way and it will be more likely to proc when you need it too if baiting enemies!
I use QR on my infantry/horse/flier guys that don't have access to VF or Bold Fighter. You can also add Aether to that super cooldown combo for amazing sustain and tank smashing too! XD
Now, unless I know what unit you want to put these skills on I can't help you more than that, sorry. X3 But I'm guessing you're building an armored unit? Because remember VF, BF, and Wary Fighter are all armor exclusive. And the Breath Skills can't be put on horses or fliers either. So, if you're going for a magical wall MGrima or Hardin--have fun! Hardin with Warding Breath + Aether + BF + QR seal is a BEAST! XDDD
I'm also using a Vengeful Steady Breath MGrima and he is extremely reliable both in and out of armor emblem XD
One thing I want to clarify is Steady Breath charges cooldown when both defending and attacking, while Vengeful Fighter only charges cooldown when you attack (after receiving the enemy's initiation). Yes, during your unit's attack they do not stack, but do not compare them solely because of this. Without Vengeful Fighter MGrima could not be as menacing as he is now, as that is the only way for him to KO units he cannot double who can take his monstrous attacks and retaliate against him (in normal / arena this will be very rare, but I'm talking about TT and chain challenge where sustain counts). If you want an even more sadistic Grima to play with add Aether to Steady/Warding Breath + Vengeful Fighter, and he surely will be a nightmare.
As mentioned earlier, for an armored unit designed to be an enemy phase tank VF is preferred than QR because of its lower HP threshold for inactivation and charge grants (even with coupled with Breaths). The only situations in which VF is not preferred are only two:
1. You are building a Player phase Armored (in that case use BF and QR if you'd like enemy phase presence)
2. You are not using an armored unit (sorry, but I had to include this ^^')
People complain that vengeful doesn't stack with breath, and that's accurate but not reason to complain. Vengeful in this situation becomes a significantly better better QR, as several people pointed out. I wouldn't ever suggest putting this combo on a unit that doesn't come with vengeful, such as M.Grima, because I think it's a better investment of resources to put bold fighter and QR seal, but I think it's reasonable to put a breath skill on someone like M.Grima if you want to use aether and don't have bold fighter to give him. Specifically on M.Grima I don't like one-round aether unless he's -atk or you want to wreck people who like to camp on defense tiles because he hits so hard you probably kill in two hits without aether; I'd rather take the "charge on one, fire on the other" approach because now he gets slightly aggressive for one less bold-fighter (though I still think he's better with it) and you also save a precious breath skill that someone like Nowi or pretty much any other aether tank can use better.
You can only have one round Aether if the foe survives Grima's first hit (which is very rare). Same goes with 4-cooldown specials like his base kit Ignis.
Grima can work well using either BF or VF and depending on your preference. A lot of people do not have BFs to waste (and Breaths for that fact) so they use VF and add a Breath skill for added defensive power, if they can afford it. Most armors would prefer BF because a lot of them have powerful player phase potential but only few have the capacity to do so without BF (eg. Zelgius), but VF can turn units into things that require your team to have good enemy phase killing potential (ie. letting them initiate on you and killing them in return) such as WTharja (usually requires a neutral speed Reinhardt to ORKO) or perhaps a +def Warding Breath + VF Sheena.
People also have different views on how precious a kill is or who should get what skill. A person specializing in Armor would gladly give Breaths on them because they enjoy it and it is actually viable. Not all people who use Nowi or other dragons put Breaths on them either; some (including me) do not use Nowi at all.
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