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Is Brave Lance still a thing?

I got a new +Atk Charlotte and I've been meaning to try her out with it (staple Death Blow build)...but with a twist. She has Heavy Blade, Dragonic Aura and Wrath. It's obviously not good against Bike, but it's not like people really use Deflects.

My other take is that refines have broadened character's options, and not all that many character have that high Atk to consistently 2HKO with Braves, or a mix of both Atk & Spd for Firesweep.

Asked by Nogitsune6 months 1 week ago

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Generally speaking, brave lance (and other braves) are still viable as they were before weapon refinery imho. We have received even more atk buffing options (atk tactic, atk wave) as well as the ability to offer better support from other units (stacking drive atk on C and seal slot, Marth refine). All these options make me believe, that building a brave lancer is still a viable option, since nowadays you have even more options to boost its attack to kill people in one double-hit.

Their biggest disadvantage of having horrible enemy phase still exists and hasn't really changed, which is why it got kind of overshadowed by refinable weapons and the overal switch of this game, which imho tends to favor enemy phase units lately.

Then they're a lot like Firesweeps, which isn't a surprise. It's okay for player phase units to lack enemy phase if they can make up for it. My biggest concern is as to why I don't hear much of them for a while.

Odd Atk Wave would be godlike on Charlotte...didn't think of that.

I guess it's just caused by the fact, that gamepress recommends enemy or mixed phase builds a lot in their reccomendations, which utilize prf weapons or refinable weapons, because those usually offer the most value, which doesn't mean that brave weapons would be dead, they just became worth it in less cases than before. +atk Charlotte is definitely one of the cases where brave lance is really worth it tho.

For example, one of my favorite brave axe users, Raven, got his prf weapon,which kind of made brave axe on Raven specifically kind of worse. This same thing happened to some other units (like Hinoka).

The funny thing is there are some weapons like meisterschwert and amiti that doubles and are essentially better weapons that vanilla braves, which shows that although brave weapons aren’t outclassed, they’re far less effective than before
I mean, have you ever thought of using even speed wave combo and with first bite refine? She becomes an amazing user of panic ploy, and the wave bonus is a huge boost to her decent speed

Those are very unique examples, and I don't find they reflect against them. It's like saying most new refines aren't as effective since most Prfs still have like +2 Mt over them...at least in that example. The way I'm seeing it, it's less likely to make an impact with characters with lower Atk. Braves somewhat seemed like an easy fix to a lot of characters back, even if they didn't quad.

Well, yeah, but then I also don't have a Karla to fodder...and even then, Odd Atk Wave would be around as good. Someone also suggested Windsweep + Atk & Spd Smokes, which I'm finding mixed results in.

I would say that they are still very viable, It's just that some of the units that can actually use Brave weapons well, just have better options now (Soleil with her Fsweep or Slaying Edge, Chrom with his Falchion refine)

Brave weapons are power crept to the floor.
You look at units like Elincia and Red!Reinhardt and you can see what it takes for a viable Brave to work in the game.

That's a very poor example, since it's only locked to two characters. That'd be like saying refines don't have much of a point when they're still beaten by +3 Prfs.