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Boey or Sophia

This questions aims towards the Raven versions of these mages while taking in consideration which one of them is going to be the better general counter for the upcoming slight meta shift.

The asumption that brave Ike and Lyn are going to be the most commonly used is most likely correct, which would make you think more of picking Sophia to counter both Ike and Lyn, while also laughing at Hectors and Amelias and being able to easily go toe to toe with Ryoma or maybe even our boy Roy.

Boey has the advantage of being able to check the always powerful blue units instead so you could build the rest of the team more to your liking when you know that you got blues and colorless covered. He also might be able to duel axe Ike.

So which one of these two you think will be better in the upcoming change?

Asked by Guts1 year 4 months ago

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If Roy isn't going to infest the arena, Boey is certainly better.
With Axebreaker he should deal with Ike quite well and his RavenTA will stop Lyn (if she isn't running Anti-TA), and Lucina (that is probably more of a problem than people realize it).

Yeah, I tend to forget about her as well, but it's mostly caused by her artwork being extremely dull imho. Boey's only slight issue is that he's going to get destroyed by green mages as well, but everything else (apart from reds ofc) should be fine.

You are right but as you said, there will be a meta shift.
Reinhardt is getting heavily countered by 2 "free" units, since everyone will get to choose one of the Brave Heroes. And Lyn will most likely be spammed.

Less Reinhardt, implies less green check, which imply less green mages. Of course Boey won't become a top-tier unit anyways, he will always fail at something pretty important. You can always think about F!Darean with RavenTA, but she won't be peerless either.

Red mages will probably be more present in the meta shift, and Sophia won't handle it too well, getting doubled H24.

In conclusion, there is no perfect anwser, if that's what you were wondering. But Boey is a slightly more complete response than Sophia, team-wise.

Yeah, those asumptions make sense. They aren't the perfect answers for all arena problems, but are definitely worthy additions to specific teams (especially for arena assault purposes, when you slowly start running out of answers).

I'll probably settle with Boey in the end to further expand my green arsenal. My small dillema mostly came out of the fact that I have 2 mages both in red and green (Tharja, Sanaki x Nino, Julia), so both of the options seemed equally viable to me.

I actually think none of this makes sense. Yes, new Lyn wrecks pretty much everything. New Ike is irrelevant to Reinhardt - you deal with greens with another character. Reinhardt will be as important as ever since the only practical counters will be powerful physical units; and lancebreaker Reinhardt will hard counter every realistic blue or red threat - he doesn't care about new Ike because you've never used him to kill the few axe wielders you ever see in the meta; and Ike's weapon is not inheritable.

It is more likely that these units will push Cecilia and other cavalry/flying blade tome users down in the meta. The core of a partial cav comp may be Lyn and Reinhardt instead of Cecilia and Reinhardt.

Raven Boey will either be susceptible to Hector or to Julia/Sonya/Nino. If he runs tomebreaker, +Atk Hector kills him on the return. If he runs axebreaker, any Julia kills him on the return.

Nothing about the new units screams "rise of the red mages." If anything, New Ike suppresses them since he will take virtually no damage on the second hit if doubled by a Tharja or Katarina with Raurblade.

If we do not see a rise in red blade mages, Sophia is the obvious choice for a Raven tome mage. TA+Swordbreaker Sophia checks every green unit plus physical reds, with no common threat from red mages.

Both are, of course, workable; but I would be strongly inclined to build a red raven tome mage before a green one if I was going to do it now.

Sophia, at least as far as Ike goes, will have the upper hand due to color advantage. It will certainly help her. Her defense and resistance both are pretty well-rounded, but that doesn't mean much when you're against all physical attackers, which the CYL bunch is ALL physical attackers.

Boey is probably a better choice since he has more intact physical bulk and a better color. Though his attack is less than Sophia's, I think he'll generally last longer.