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Biggest change in usefulness, Feh refines.

With the pretty big update for 2 units today, I'm curious which refine people think is the biggest change for a characters usefulness.
As in, not the strongest refine, but the character that changed the most with their refine.

In my opinion it has to be either Odin 'buffs everywhere' Dark or Alm the dragonbutcher

Asked by Sir of Coffee3 months 3 weeks ago
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by Guts 3 months 3 weeks ago

Odin went from 0 to 100, so he deserves a mention in this, definitely. The other one for me would be Marth. It's mostly personal bias, but his refine changed him from a rather bad swordsman into a backbone of my main team thanks to all the reliable buffs that he can provide, while also being an easy Myrrh killer.

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I still haven't gotten that Marth, but I know he's pretty solid.

Honestly, with the amount of support he can bring, I would surgest him to any new player as first upgrade to 5*/weapon refinement.

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I guess that's right. Now that I think about it, there are not really that many 3/4 heroes with a refinable prf that would be just solid all-rounders, that new players could just easily play with.

You either have some more complicated stuff like wind's brand owltome refine and even Odin's link tome, which does require some form of strategy, or you have some extremely specific stuff like Lilina's death blow tome or Camilla's refine, which don't really fit everywhere.

Maybe Marth's simplicity is what's best about him.

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The ability to choose either Wrazzle or Dazzle (or combo them) really opened up more options for healers. Now you can pretty successfully build them as DPS or tanks with nowhere near as much trouble as before.

As for who changed function the most, I'd have to say the Tiki weapon/refine really opened up a new path for them. Now they have options besides being a lightning breath tank. Also the Rhompaiah/Wing Swords changed Clair and Caeda from being speedy mage tanks with terrible attack into quite formidable offensive units. Also the Yato refine made M!Corrin a very niche character, but one that does his job incredibly well. Also Soren's tome differentiated him from being another Bladetome mage into being quite the debuffing monstrosity.

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by Tandor 3 months 3 weeks ago

I'd have to give the refine crown to Alphonse - after all, he was known as the Benchlord before, but now people actually use him quite often (when he's a bonus unit at least).

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If we ignore him outside arena I think it's either a disinterest in units that are all atk and def, lack of dew, or an old bias. Very few units can achieve 46-50 def and 65 atk unmerged without buffs.

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Probably Eirika’s Succ Buffs refine. It helps her patch her terrible Atk and allows her to stack her Spd, Def, and Res to make her extremely difficult to kill

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I think Alm got the most out of his refine. He went from mediocre pseudo-Healer to having one of the best Player Phase of any unit in the game (maybe losing only to B!Celica) with the best Dragon-Slaying capabilities. In spite of all the powerful refines that came out yesterday, I still think his refine is the best offensive one (maybe tied with Lilina's) in the game.

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In terms of most drastic change to *play style* as opposed to changes in viability, I'd say Leo, who loses his gravity effect and functionally overloads his previously useless defense stat.

Honorable mention goes to Celica because her refine changes her viable b-slots quite a lot (desperation, sweep).

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