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Best usage of feathers for fairly new player.

I have been playing FE heroes for about a month and a half and I have been generally using feathers to promote a mixture of units I like/units who are good/useful as well as using some for the few casual 'merge' projects I want to work on whenever I get copies.

As of today I have cleared every GHB in the daily rotation on infernal and now want to start working on the 'elite' quests (not the blessing ones yet though) and was wondering if it would be worthwhile to promote free units like Xander and Michalis who seem to be pretty prominent in GHB elite guides at 5*?

On the other hand, I do know the inevitability of needing to promote the Askr trio for arena bonuses (since I am f2p and won't always have a unit from a new banner if I don't want anyone from the banner), would promoting them be more beneficial now or can they be left until later when I have cleared out most the ingame content and want to focus more heavily on arena?

Or alternatively, would I be better off focusing on merges, even though I feel I should try and build up more strong 5*'s first before thinking too much about merges as I am currently just short of enough 5*'s to clear arena assult with only 5* units.

I can share my current units if it would help, please let me know.

Asked by PhantomL3 months 3 weeks ago
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i'd say focus on three units to +10 merge ( units post cyl such as shigure , libra and soleil are ideal because of inflated stats , armors or dragons if you are aiming for hight tier arena ) . If arena IS your goal , you should focus on getting the askr trio to 5* rarity asap . If not , you can clear most of their quests at 4* rarity . If you could share your units it would really help , though

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Arena isn't currently high priority for me currently but long term I might want to try and get to high tiers (currently t18 but getting demoted this week) but clearing in game stuff would be nice for the orbs. Here are my units (blue hearts are used to indicate perfect/near perfect ivs I need to get around to levelling up)

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i think tharja and nino will do wonders for you , especially if you are in need of units to clear maps. Nino often appears in F2P guides as well. Apart from that , Camus is really good unit to upgrade , and Xander is very trustworthy too if you decide to go full on horse emblem .

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by Nilla 3 months 3 weeks ago

Promote your askr units to 5 stars, that costs 60k feathers and they are always going to in your inventory no matter what.

After that, just save feathers unit you have 220k, trust me itll be hard having that much conviction the first time around, but by the time you get to 220k feathers you should already know what unit you want to make 5+10, and with 220k feathers you can do that.

You can get into and stay in tier 20 of arena with just your favorites provided they have enough merges on them, all being +10, as well as an invested askr unit.

But really, just save your feathers. Just because you CAN use them right away doesn't mean you should.

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I try and stay above 20k feathers no matter what in case I get a 4* i really want to promote but the moment I get to 40k I really want to promote someone in hope it will help me with in game content. At first I was really reluctant to promote Askr trio but I know I won't always have an arena bonus unit.

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Like i said, its gonna be hard saving up that many feathers, but by the time you do, you SHOULD have enough copies of a unit, 11, to make that unit 5+10. Just save and don't give in to temptation.

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If you don't grind for feathers (ex: me), feather income is maybe 100k-120k a month? So around two months or a bit longer for a new player to collect 220k feathers if they don't grind. (And if you're going to call names for not grinding, it doesn't change the fact that not grinding means 2-2.5 months for 220k feathers.)

That's maybe 800 free orbs at most? If it's a new player and they start mining everything out, maybe 1100 orbs. Pulling reds gives you the most summons per orb, and you'd end up with around 232 summons. Let's assume that in 232 summons you literally NEVER got a 5*, which is impossible now that 120 summons without a 5* just turns the next round into all 5*s. There are about 30 units in the 3*-4* pool. If variance is near average, and with 1100 orbs I wouldn't expect enormous deviance, you're looking at an average of 8 copies of each unit. You might have 11 of one, or two, or maybe even three or four, and there's no guarantee that those are units you want to merge to 5*+10. So even if you don't feather grind, so that it takes longer to save up the feathers (and more orbs accumulate in that time), the chance isn't even that good that you will get 11 copies of that unit in the time it takes to accumulate the feathers.

Besides, who pulls only one colour for 1100 orbs in their first few months of the game?

Just to show how it plays out in concrete terms, I've played for five months, completely f2p, never sent home a Felicia or Nowi including the two of Felicia we get for free. I've spent enough feathers to theoretically +10 Felicia and if my numbers are correct I could have Nowi at +10 also. My Felicia is stuck at +6 and my Nowi is stuck at +4.

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For a new player, you need good units, to win maps, then the Askr trio is eliminated since they are terrible and require heavy investment to be average. And a new player should not aim to score high in tiers 20 arena ( AKA old player pool)
Thx for the worst advice a new player could ever get.

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You're an idiot if you believe anything you just said,I had someone start playing feh on my server, and within a month he was permanent tier 20 while still being f2p.

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If I'm not mistaken that's mathematically impossible. Someone is fibbing.

Week 1: Tier 1 -> 4
Week 2: Tier 4 -> 7
Week 3: Tier 7 -> 10
Week 4: Tier 10 -> 13
Week 5: Tier 13 -> 16

That's one month, and from that point on it's impossible to promote more than 1 tier per week.

Week 6: Tier 16 -> 17
Week 7: Tier 17 -> 18
Week 8: Tier 18 -> 19
Week 9: Tier 19 -> 20

That's the end of the SECOND month just to get into T20.

Are you calling people idiots and this never even occurred to you?

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Alfonse isn't really that terrible and doesn't require that much investment, Brazzen Atk/Def isn't locked behind a 5* exclusive which for many including myself put it on him, threw the TA3 refinement out the window and grab Def for more points, then with Desperation and Brash Assault seal he can Double units with a +14 Atk/Def, obv keep him away from mages but everyone knows that

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by cypher 3 months 3 weeks ago

If you are a new player, what you need id good units. What to do with your feathers ? Keep them. Then when you get a good IV character, promote him/her. Characters such as Reinhardt or Sheena, who are easy to get and are very powerful with minimum investment. A soleil with +spd and a firesweep sword can do wonders. But overalk Reinhardt should be a priority. Do not forget that you get free 5* stars such as Fjorm or Legendary Ike. Start a team with them, maybe a healer, and a unit you lvl up for minimum efforts. If you are starting, ignore expensive builds and do not invest in the Askr trio. Its an arena thing you do not need. You need one or more effective teams. Also, try to get a proper dancer. They are great force multiplier. Olivia is ok to start and easy to get. Later, you will get better ones.

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I think that the best use of your feathers would be to promote the Askr trio so that you always have a bonus unit for the Arena. I think that you should be able to reach anywhere between Tier 15-17 (maybe higher) on just the free 5-Star units that the game provides (with L!Ike, Fjrom, a Brave Hero, and Askr tio unit), and you can get a good amount of orbs and feathers every week. The story maps will always stay, and BHB, GHB, (and possibly LHB if the L!Grima maps are any indication) maps will come back in the future; however, you get more rewards the longer you remain competitive in the Arena, so it's worth to at least invest a bit there before anything else. You don't even need premium investments in any of them--just something common in the 4-Star pool to fill up any missing skill slots that can be useful will do.

Once you find yourself unable to climb up any further (and not drop Tiers), then I think its worth investing feathers to promote GHB / common units like Xander, Camus, Arvis, Reinhardt, etc. for in-game content. The highest Tiers of the Arena will require that you have heavily merged Arena cores, and it will be a long while before you amass the 660K feathers to max merge all of them. You could save up and wait it out if you really wanted to, but I think that you should spend at least a some so that you have competent units for every mode outside of the Arena. (If you play well and invest in the proper units, then any in-game content in FEH can be cleared with 5-Star units without merges, or even 4-Star units--merged or un-merged.)

Once you feel that you have enough good units to clear most or all content that the game throws at you, then focus on saving feathers for max-merging your Arena core.

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I climbed to t18 this week but am getting demoted (I believe this is probably as high as I can reach for now) and will have bonus units for the next two weeks since I got Lewyn and Quan off the Geneaology banner. I'm not sure if I will be able to stay in t17 without bonus units though.

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I didn't realize that you were already this high. lol

Still, I think the Askr Trio is a good investment just to make sure you don't drop too low in the following weeks. They might not be the best units, but they perform decently well in combat and are guaranteed to be in the rotation; also, the Arena rewards are too good to ignore. (Those things really add up if you score decently well.)

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by Seeker 3 months 3 weeks ago

You seem like a pretty smart and conscientious player. I guessed that you have around 30-40 units at 5*, and your comment about being just short of getting through arena assault makes me think I wasn't too far off.

Up to that point I'd say you're definitely still in the opening phase of an account when you can go for pretty much anything, just explore and develop your knowledge of the game and discover your preferred play style. I think you can continue with it, try out characters you might like, start thinking about merge projects but not quite committing yet because 1.5 months in is too early if you ask me. Players who understand the game and understand themselves and how they need to approach the game in that amount of time are, I wager, about as common as child prodigies who make international performing careers as teenagers.

Maybe offer us a few names of the characters you have most enjoyed using, and we can offer you some suggestions for characters to try at +0 that you might merge to +10?

Also, if you give me your friend code I'll offer you a merged unit to use in relay defense.

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You could promote Nowi. She pretty much carried me through the game and is still my strongest unit. She can even be summoned at 3* besides 4*, so she is easy to get alot of copies of.
The Askr Trio is also pretty important to promote if you want to get to the higher tiers and you don't want to spend money to get those weeks bonus heroes.

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Usually whenever someone starts I always recommend the same couple units to five star: Nino, Nowi, Soleil, and Reinhardt. However, if you think you already know your playstyle you can go different routes, or if you're having issues with a particular unit then you can five star a counter. For instance, I tend to prefer mages, so I five starred Nino and Tharja off the bat, but if you were to prefer a more defensive playstyle, then I'd recommend units like Sheena or a mix tank Nowi. If you want you can work on some gimmicky builds for the hell of it too. Just remember that everything isn't all about arena, and that you want to ultimately have fun building and using your units in the end.

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