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Are Bows the worst unit type

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Asked by Hussain4 months 3 weeks ago
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by Nilla 4 months 4 weeks ago

Yes.

Theres not much to discuss, they're slightly stronger daggers, but lack the aoe debuffs that daggers have. which makes daggers useful in grand conquests and other war maps.

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um.... clarisse bow is fodderable and debuffs...... bows have brave weapon while daggers dont. they are effective against flier emblem while the only thing daggers are effective against is infantry and only poison dagger can, but sadly has 5 MT. bow users have more option while daggers are limited to couple roles

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I think they're pretty much on the low end. They have absolutely the worst match ups vs armors and dragons with their high bulk whereas other unit types have better chances in dealing with them. Brave ad Firesweep have trouble ORKOing them. Brave Lyn and Hinoka WF with their locked weapons fare much better than the rest and they have access to class buffs.

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If going by their placement in tier lists vs other units in general. Theres a lot of things that hold them back.

Few have prf weapons ins the first place. Much less that are op.

A lot of them fall short of the standard 35 35 offensive statline that is usuall for offensive units.

And even their defensive sets with guard bow arent that good/flexible when facing melee teams so they become somewhat of a liability.

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tier lists arent too reliable, as unorthodox builds, that might be surprisingly effective, are usually not considered for placements

at the end of the day, not too many archers have a statline significant enough to carry them over the fact they have no WTA and target defense in a meta where high defense rules

although the colored archers actually seem really good because of their dmg bonus regardless of WTD against fliers pairing with natural WTA

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Imo definitely not. Halloween Jakob is one of the best units in the game with Brave Bow + Bold Fighter, Brave Lyn, WoF Hinoka, Bride Cordellia, Summer Takumi are amazing, while it's an event exclusive weapon atm the desperation bow is amazing and Jeorge is heavily slept on. Personally I think the worst unit type is healers, they're expensive to build, the only set most people use is dazzling gravity with double savage blow and the only really good ones are Maribelle and Elise, all the rest are just decent or not great. Really hoping we get some legendary staffs soon to give them a much needed buff and so that we can see some more unique builds.

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theres the wrathful dazzle build that makes any healer be able to chip damage. while not all of them are good like elise and maribelle (and genny) they can all effectively do 24 damage aoe without retaliation. have 1 dancer and any healer can do 48 aoe damage nearly killing anyone in range. plus they are healers, they are suppose to be support units thus they appear weaker then others but they truely are wolf in sheeps clothing. no matter how strong ur unit is, no matter how tanky ur unit is, no matter how fast ur unit is, against a healer with massive chip potential, will fall hard. only actual way to counter them is having massive hp like arden, but he to slow to catch up to a horse or even infantry healers

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Nah. That "honor" goes to either Staff users (held back by harsh bst penalties and skill inheritance limitations, as well as the fact that they are limited in weapon types) or Dagger users (Typically lower Atk and/or unfavorable stat spreads overall and lack of powerful weapons such as Brave and Firesweep. They're mostly niche units when using effective against weapons, and when they're not doing that, they're often relegated to being poke and/or debuff bots).

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