anyone else think the summoning system is kinda fuckin ugly

That's the nature of luck, and I don't think it they would ever do something like that, be glad they have the rate of summoning go up when others don't.

Well if it was like that then everyone would be F2P

but they do have that. if you summon 120 times without a 5 star you'll automaticaly get one.

so if you pull 5 for 20 orbs that means 120 pulls=480 orbs

obviously you'd need horrible look to even get to that point, but yes there is a limit.

Bc 3%/5%/8% are all lies.
For that matter, non-focus 5* shouldn't be a thing.
Summoning is so skewed against players.
Although so is all gambling

Yeah, unfortunately the guaranteed 5* is at a ridiculous point right now. Spending around $40 should get you at least one 5*, spending $75 should definitely get you one. But that's not how money is made, I guess. Spending $270 for any kind of guarantee seems to the point of ridiculousness.

They actually have a guaranteed system. Go to a banner and do the following to find information.
Details -> More key information about summoning -> Read

It states the following:
"If you summon 120 times in a row without summoning a 5* Hero, then the summoning rate for 5* Heroes will be raised to 100% for the next summoning session. When that happens, summoning with any of the five summoning stones will result a 5* Hero."

If you were to do a summoning session and assuming you are summoning all five then 120 summons would be equal to 480 orbs.

And I also think that when you have spent 480 orbs with no 5* and you're now gonna get the guaranteed, then all 5 of the stones will be a 5* so you would get 5 5* from the guaranteed summoning session. Though I'm not sure.

I honestly don't care since most units are good even when they aren't 5 stars. I got a +6 Oboro who rocks and hoping I get 4 more to +10 her.

Perhaps you should try not doing it all at once. Something seems off when you get clone characters

Perhaps you should try not doing it all at once. Something seems off when you get clone characters

Welcome to Gacha, may I take your order?

Lol but yeah, I agree that the summoning is so annoying, but the 60 orbs = 1 guaranteed 5* is a bit.... much.

Yes, they really need to change the summoning system. Like idc how they do it, but make it so pity breakers aren’t a problem at all

It can happen, if you get lucky you get 5* one after one, if you aren't you won't receive anything till pity rate reaches high numbers