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Any way to improve this?
Is this a good set-up? I wanted to utilize the "going in solo" mechanic the Legendary Renais Twins have, so I created this. since baiting is such a popular tactic, I have Michiah with WoM, and if they aren't in WoM range the Twin that didn't attack just Repos so Michiah can dance them anyways.
The main flaw I see is the spot under the healing tower as a green flier like Nino can just oneshot Ephriam, but I've just accepted that as is.
I've already secured a few def wins, but improvement and criticism is always helpful.
Aside from that, any suggestions? Other flaws?
(Builds will be below btw)
Edit: Thank for the input everyone!
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you need to change your ephraim a lot.
put lancebreaker/guard on his B slot, deathblow on his A slot, and smoke skill on his C slot.
a single brave hector can pretty much kill all your melee unit.
I'd suggest changing roy to a infantry green mage though, that way, if they managed to kill ephraim and eirika with lance unit, the green mage will kill him.
EDIT : also you can use quickened pulse and luna on eirika.
I am not sure if she will survive with brazen active, aside from bolt tower damage.
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Yeah, as I was making this I realized that I was lacking in green. I was hoping to get my 5th defense character, but I need buildings for the Fort level.
Also my Ephraim already has all those skills, I dunno why I didn't have deathblow on him, and I just assumed the 4 charge Aether would be enough for B!Hector.
Will my Nino be alright to replace Roy?
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I am not sure what do you mean by 4 charge aether.
But now that I think about it, even Bhector might not be able tank both ephraim luna and eirika super luna.
that nino could work.
you need to change your micaiah C skill to atk tactics, and ephraim/eirika C skill to respective tactics, or even a simple hone skill too, so that your nino can do 20-24 extra damage with blade.
and you nino gonna need hone X for the 2 cavs.
I think your team can do a nice job at punishing EP unit, but you will lose against a PP centered unit.
also your team will be crippled by aversa and panic manor though, keep that in mind!
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that's actually a smart idea!
your Nino might actually do stuff like Harsch command
Ephraim go suicide, then dancer refresh nino, nino harsh command eirika, then Eirika might get the kill with super luna.
now the problem is that your Eirika is most likely getting killed too, so I wonder if your nino and micaiah can actually kill 3 enemy team.
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Will they die though? Unless facing a dragon Ephriam will have 39 def and Eirika with 41. With my past records they typically are on the verge of death but not quite. Plus, they do cover 2 colors. Unless Ephriam cannot kill a blue unit like B!Hector as mentioned before, but Aether is kinda hard to live through.
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well you should assume they fight a +10 unit.
for example, a +10 nowi can tank ephraim, but get killed by eirika.
+10 Lukas can tank ephraim, and unless you run guard, he will kill ephraim with ignis too, then lukas get killed by eirika.
+10 Gwendoly can also tank ephraim, but get killed by eirika.
most of the time, if they managed to kill ephraim, eirika will pretty much die too, because she'll be isolated after killing the unit that tank ephraim.
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Here are the obvious flaws:
• too many Red units
• units that get wrecked by the meta
• ranges not overlapping
The simplest of teams, that is Rein, Lyn and 2 dancers, does the trick of killing everyone without dying and secures the left Aether source for sure.
Roy feels totally useless in the back as an infantry unit with two cavalry units in front of him. Micaih can dance him, yes, but he will definitely be body blocked by one of the cavs.
Micaih is a very easy safe snipe using a flier.
The traps feel useless because you can bait from so many different tiles. But most of all, it is very easy to kill the two cavs in one turn and repo back to safety with a unit that can tank Roy - a lot of units will be able to do this.
All in all, here is what I advise you:
• change the units to match the meta. Reinhardt is king, have at least one unit that he cannot beat. Smolzura is a bonus unit and a dancer, why Micaih over her?
• change the positioning of the buildings/units. They are currently too easy to snipe.
And here's my personal rule: use as least melee units as possible. They get cheesed very easily. Overall, you want a majority of ranged units. The pressure of getting the bonus Aether will make the opponent make mistakes.
EDIT: I hadn't checked the units but 1 Repo is more than enough. Roy's repo and one of the cavs' will definitely make them lack the range to attack.
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I pretty much have to agree here. It's harsh advice, but more or less true to what I've found in this mode too, and more or less along the feedback I have too. Imo, to really take advantage of range overlap, you should have at least half your team as ranged units that complement the target distance of your primary DPS characters.
E.g. if you have a Soleil, then an Infantry Mage behind her will complement and overlap the space perfectly. If you have a Sigurd or a Nino, then a Cavalry Healer behind them will complement their ranges perfectly.
The Twins seem good and are in decent positions, but I think Roy needs to be swapped for a ranged Green cavalry unit, or maybe a Green infantry/flier melee unit placed to the right of Ephraim. That way you could have better range overlap and a more aggressive defense against Reinhardt. Micaiah could be swapped if needed but I'd recommend moving her to where Roy is now so that she doesn't get sniped by Fliers as easily. Just some thoughts.
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I've already made the transition from changing Roy into my Nino.
I do want to keep Michiah there as Bonus units on defense do nothing different as the stat buffs only apply on attacking, and
also since Michiah can oneshot Cavs and most Armors.
I'm also trying out different layouts for my map. I kinda don't rely on them when attacking so I don't think of them much on defending. Should I change the armor school into a cav one?
As for using Ephriam and Eirika over Veronica and other range cavs... I just want to do something different. As you said people already have counters for those popular heroes.
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I haven't learned how to coach AR defense construction yet, but Micaiah is a bit easy to bait. I just break the healing tower with a ranged unit and put Nowi where your panic manor is. Everyone comes rushing out and I blast them down with mages.
Or my flier team could hide behind your amphorae and healing tower and take out half your team
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