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Hello Everyone,
since L!ephraim is going back in a month or two, I wanna know what's your opinion on ephraims nowadays (not the brave one).
as a gen1 unit, they are pretty bad parameterwise.
also og and L is practically a copy of each other with different movement type.
Are they still worth +10 ? if yes, which 1 would you +10 first ?
out of all fe characters, I like ephraim a lot, and I will +10 all of them in the future, but for now, I only have 700 orbs that I saved since day 1 I play. (I only summon during cyl2 and marth banner to give my bephraim dc)
The only thing concerns me with horsephraim is those trenches and forests, he is not as flexible as normal ephraim.
which one do you think better ?

I wish at some point IS release seasonal ephraim with a sword.

Asked by Vergessen3 months ago

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Infantry Ephraim is now quite bad IMO, no real good stats, Siegmund's Prf refine is picky with his poor defenses, and Flame Siegmund doesn't fit his movement type. Being infantry means he'll clump up next to his allies and thus Flame Siegmund won't help.

Legendary Ephraim is still very viable imo. Flame Siegmund is perfect for how he's a Horse unit, since he can skrt skrt away from his allies, get the guaranteed double, and even proc Galeforce to skrt skrt away even further. Being a Legendary Hero helps too, especially a Fire one since I find Fire blessings to be quite rare.

yeah, siegmund is such a bad weapon. flame siegmund is the only way to go with him.

oh also, does everyone build their lephraim with desperation galeforce ?
I kinda feel bad for his solar brace. if only it's on C slot like hector or tiki.

I really like both Ephraims.

Sure they're not top tier, but don't underestimate them.

Normal Ephraim is a hybrid support and duelist. The 100% sure double with his good 35 atk mean that he can take a lot of ranged units down, no problem. Even green ones. A lot of em rely on avoiding doubles for survival.
And 45 hp with 32 def are good enough to avoid getting killed too easily. Ephraim can rush down squshier enemies before they can double, while defending against tankier foes.
The only problem is his low speed, don't let mages attack him first.
As a support he can buff a lot of stats at the same time. It's not as good as it was, but it still gives him a role aside from fighting.
And his high Hp helps with panic ploy and infantry pulse.

L!Ephraim has the same deal of being able to bring down a lot of pesky enemies, and to mobility to do it.
The main thing he has going for him, is that flame siegmund allows for doubles in both phases.

All in all, I don't think Ephraim is bad, he just needs good use.

are you using the pursuit siegmund ?
I kinda think flame siegmund better on both ephraims.
I'm not really sold on normal siegmund though. +4 atk is kinda weak these days. besides that, pursuit hp threshold is too strict.

I'd +10 L!Ephraim first. He's disgusting in arena and also adds an extra +8 score to a Fire Blessed hero during Fire season. He might get you quite a few Defense wins if you run DB3/4 + Galeforce + Heavyblade.

I really hope Original Ephraim gets demoted at some point so he'll be easier to +10

alright, I'll try to get him next month or two then.
I kinda pity this guy, his unique solar brace outshadowed by desperation.

ikr, his sister is in 3-4, while he is in 5 with that pitiful stats.
he's pretty much blue chrom.
If only he got demoted, I won't have this dilemma

infantry Ephraim is not an intimidating unit, but he's not bad either. Nino will love him for the buffs and for taking care of swords for her, or even red mages if you prefer - give him DC and R tomebreaker (because most swords don't have good res so Nino can probably get through them, but not necessarily true of red mages, especially slower ones)

L.Ephraim has good mobility so Flame Siegmund can be good.

I am kinda surprised that a lot of people actually use the normal siegmund.
since atk tactic is from 4* legault now, I thought that flame siegmund is the way to go for both ephraims.

Lmao at anyone who says Ephraim isnt a good unit

while I like him a lot, I do think his statspread is not that good.
he practically have a 55/43 defensive stats because he is so slow.
I might give him a +spd IV to deny doubles up to 33 spd for +0 ephraim.

also, do you think pursuit siegmund is better than flame siegmund ?

refined Sieg is better than flame sieg on normal Ephraim. Cav Eph has more move and can take advantage of Flame's effect while normal Eph can't

I see. My only concern with pursuit siegmund is that 90% hp treshold very strict. if only it were 70% like QR.

I have both, but I think horse is better and still pretty viable, it really depends on what you're looking for though.